What you are posting has no relevance to the OP, which was:
Chap wrote:Nemesis has now posted this on his solo thread on the MAD board:
Ok I thought staying quiet would stop the meme generator attacks then they go and make one that promotes violence against a woman.
[Posted Image of Juliann from memegenerator, with caption "Hate Women? Kick This One"]
Really irresponsible and yes this attack started at mormondiscussions dot com
I think this post alone sums up what I have been trying to point out this whole time and proves where the misogyny really stems from.
Nemesis
Two points on this -
Firstly, even assuming the latest meme is, as he takes it, an attack on Juliann, what evidence has he that this was some kind of collective act by this board ("they go and ...") rather than a single nut at work?
Secondly, who else out there agrees with me that this picture is probably NOT intended as an incitement to kick Juliann, but is more likely intended to say something like "Are you a pathetic loser with a grudge against women? OK, here is one for you to kick- she doesn't know who you are, and can't hurt you back"?
The prose generated by Nemesis is often so garbled that I have wondered whether he is a native English speaker. I hope he is not, since otherwise he would have to be really badly educated. But in this case I think he shows himself to be just plain dim, as well as unalterably malevolent to this board as a whole, and to pretty well anyone on it.
(And isn't posting the image a really good way of making the whole damn thing cool down and go away? Could it be that Nemesis rather enjoys the prolongation of anything that in his view shows just how wicked exmos and nevermos are?)
{edited to correct punctuation at one point}
by the way, I have seen no evidence of woman hating from Pahoran. He hates 'anti-mormons', irrespective of gender.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
SeattleGhostWriter wrote:Do you know Will and Pahoran? As far as I can see, their only real is their disgusting display of woman hating. Other than that, what is there? Responding to sniping comments in a way that cuts to your souls? Speaking the hard truth to those whom may not wish to hear?
I think you misunderstand us. How long have you been out of the Church? Has it been so long that you forgot what it is like to be attacked by ravening bigots all the time? To be harassed and hated for what you believe? Has it been so long?
Oh, for heaven's sake. If people on boards like this are "ravening bigots" who do nothing but attack, then why in the heck do you, or any LDS, come here?
It's hard to feel sympathy for people who SEEK out these sort of interactions and then use them to justify bad behavior.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
by the way, I have seen no evidence of woman hating from Pahoran. He hates 'anti-Mormons', irrespective of gender.
To my mind, if someone defends or denies the clear tripe that William Schryver has written in context and plain English, for the sole purpose to attempt to defend some kind of twisted tribe, he is also guilty. When Pahoran threw womankind under the bus to defend a fellow apologist, he becomes a woman hater. I find it sick. I find it disgusting. It sickens me. Little wonder the Antis have so much fodder to call sexism on the Church with him behaving like that.
SeattleGhostWriter wrote:Do you know Will and Pahoran? As far as I can see, their only real is their disgusting display of woman hating. Other than that, what is there? Responding to sniping comments in a way that cuts to your souls? Speaking the hard truth to those whom may not wish to hear?
I think you misunderstand us. How long have you been out of the Church? Has it been so long that you forgot what it is like to be attacked by ravening bigots all the time? To be harassed and hated for what you believe? Has it been so long?
I know them from what they choose to post.
Will is the misogynist, not Pahoran. Although Pahoran seems to suffer from rage issues and is chronically unhinged. Pa Pa is probably mentally ill.
I'm still in the church, SGW. The last time I was attacked by a bigot for being Mormon was on my mission. Nothing worse than what you posted here, though, against atheists and antis.
Now I'm being attacked by a bigot for being atheist. I went from one disliked group to an even more disliked group!
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
SeattleGhostWriter wrote:Look in the mirror. You mock and scorn. Nothing is below you in order to score cheap points. It bemuses me. Why do you people care? You left the Church. Leave it alone and move on.
Why do you care what we think and post? Were you to practice that which you preach then you would stop posting here. So keep posting and be a hypocrite, or live the principles you espouse and go away.
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SeattleGhostWriter wrote:Do you know Will and Pahoran? As far as I can see, their only real is their disgusting display of woman hating. Other than that, what is there? Responding to sniping comments in a way that cuts to your souls? Speaking the hard truth to those whom may not wish to hear?
I think you misunderstand us. How long have you been out of the Church? Has it been so long that you forgot what it is like to be attacked by ravening bigots all the time? To be harassed and hated for what you believe? Has it been so long?
Oh, for heaven's sake. If people on boards like this are "ravening bigots" who do nothing but attack, then why in the heck do you, or any LDS, come here?
It's hard to feel sympathy for people who SEEK out these sort of interactions and then use them to justify bad behavior.
Oh please.
My pictures are stolen and misused. My family is mocked. My art is mocked. My name is smeared. And if I turn this rock over to squish this maliciousness? Well, I guess I sought it.
by the way, I have seen no evidence of woman hating from Pahoran. He hates 'anti-Mormons', irrespective of gender.
To my mind, if someone defends or denies the clear tripe that William Schryver has written in context and plain English, for the sole purpose to attempt to defend some kind of twisted tribe, he is also guilty. When Pahoran threw womankind under the bus to defend a fellow apologist, he becomes a woman hater. I find it sick. I find it disgusting. It sickens me. Little wonder the Antis have so much fodder to call sexism on the Church with him behaving like that.
The real charges of sexism against the church have nothing to do with Will. The issues go far deeper than that.
Will's particular brand of misogyny is not reflective of the LDS church.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
by the way, I have seen no evidence of woman hating from Pahoran. He hates 'anti-Mormons', irrespective of gender.
To my mind, if someone defends or denies the clear tripe that William Schryver has written in context and plain English, for the sole purpose to attempt to defend some kind of twisted tribe, he is also guilty. When Pahoran threw womankind under the bus to defend a fellow apologist, he becomes a woman hater. I find it sick. I find it disgusting. It sickens me. Little wonder the Antis have so much fodder to call sexism on the Church with him behaving like that.
I see what you are driving at, but I would suggest to you that in order to qualify as 'hating' a particular group you really do have to have strong, conciously negative emotions towards it as a group, and I think that Pahoran feels no such emotions towards women as a class.
It is more or less irrelevant to Pahoran that Schryver was attacked for saying bad things to and about women. For him the essential point was simply that a well-known LDS poster was being criticized by a non-LDS.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Will's particular brand of misogyny is not reflective of the LDS church.
I know this. My objection is to both him and Pahoran, who defends misogyny to defend a fellow apologist. Pahoran should have denounced those words. They are hateful. There is nothing else to it.
It is more or less irrelevant to Pahoran that Schryver was attacked for saying bad things to and about women. For him the essential point was simply that a well-known LDS poster was being criticized by a non-LDS.
Exactly. This strikes me as stupid and reckless behavior.