How Saturday's Warrior and Johnny Lingo Hurt the Church

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Re: How Saturday's Warrior and Johnny Lingo Hurt the Church

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Simon Belmont wrote:Lamest OP in the history of the Internet.



At least my OP is not about an apple. :)
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Droopy wrote:"Overpopulation" is an ideological myth, and bore a very strong resemblance, in its heydey, to AGW.

Gee, you're so right. The planet can support as many people as we can cram onto it. 50 billion, 100 billion... why not a trillion? Damn libbruls and their stupid myths. There are no resource limits.


So little American girls are going to get the idea stuffed into their heads that their future husbands are going to own them by watching a movie about a traditional tribal society in the South Seas that uses that setting to teach a moral principle.

Nah, they're smart enough to connect the cow concept with a modern equivalent, the diamond engagement ring. The bigger and more expensive the rock on her hand, the more value she has as a woman, the better she will look in the mirror, and the happier life she will have. It's simple cause and effect, really. Can't argue with science like that.
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My favorite Saturday's Warrior 'doctrine' is the idea that the spirits of fetuses that die get another shot at a different body, either the next one from those parents or another family.

So if that were actual doctrine, abortion should be no big deal, really. The spirit will just pop into another body. The worst consequence would be having to wait a bit longer than expected.
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Hello,

When I was just a young Lingo I received piano lessons from Mahana. She was one of the classiest ladies I've ever known. I played football with her son who as a Sophomore was something like 6' 6" & 250 lbs. I heard he received a scholarship to play for BYU, but I'm not totally sure about that. He was a class act, too.

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Like all antiMormons, you're out of touch not only with the doctrine but, in this case, with the culture. Most Mormons view Johnny Lingo as a story of liberation from humiliating treatment and from self-loathing and low self-esteem.

I think it speaks volumes about you that you see nothing wrong with Johnny Lingo. Tragic.


Presentism.

Also, not that it matters, but I am an active, temple recommend carrying member. Thanks for not jumping to conclusions or judging.


One would expect a TR carrying member to know the doctrine; perhaps 1 Corinthains 6:2 in this case. But we know that carrying a TR does not say anything about the current direction one is headed, merely that one has got on the path at some point.
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The second image is of him after three years in school. He looks miserable. Robbed of all his majesty. Tamed.


Ahh yes, the noble savage returns in modern multiculturalist robes. Strange that I've never heard anyone mention this concept of being "tamed" with regard to the Vikings.
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I think it speaks volumes about you that you see nothing wrong with Johnny Lingo. Tragic.


From my perspective, this perception snaps back toward you carrying the same message, only obverted to represent your ideologically formatted perception of the film and the "message" it contains as seen through your politically correct prism.

Also, not that it matters, but I am an active, temple recommend carrying member. Thanks for not jumping to conclusions or judging.


Are you now? Well, good for you.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:Droopy, you're not actually trying to defend Johnny Lingo and Saturday's Warrior are you? That's a little like trying to defend the Holocaust.


I see. Could you perhaps provide a coherent, logical argument that would demonstrate why defending the film Johnny Lingo can be considered analogous to defending the genocidal slaughter of six million Jews?
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krose wrote:
Gee, you're so right. The planet can support as many people as we can cram onto it. 50 billion, 100 billion... why not a trillion? Damn libbruls and their stupid myths. There are no resource limits.


In an absolute sense, of course there are. In a contemporary, human civilizational sense, as has been shown by scholars such as Julian Simon, there really aren't.

Nah, they're smart enough to connect the cow concept with a modern equivalent, the diamond engagement ring. The bigger and more expensive the rock on her hand, the more value she has as a woman, the better she will look in the mirror, and the happier life she will have. It's simple cause and effect, really. Can't argue with science like that.


Again, this is groundless retro-seventies feminist ideology, not serious sociocultural critique. What a diamond ring symbolizes subjectively to any particular woman is an individual matter, mediated by far more compelling dynamics and variables than the gnostic speculations of academic feminist theory.
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Droopy wrote:
Ahh yes, the noble savage returns in modern multiculturalist robes. Strange that I've never heard anyone mention this concept of being "tamed" with regard to the Vikings.

Well, they tamed Brett Favre fairly well, but that Adrian Peterson fellow is still running wild.
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