I guess I just don't understand how one person can be both an intellectual and ignorant at the same time.
Then you quite clearly don't understand what it is to be an "intellectual," how intellectuality exists side by side with other aspects of the human condition, nor the history of the 20th century.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Themis wrote:It would be more accurate that he hates intellectuals that would question the church or it's leaders. Not unlike some other religions.
CFR.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
harmony wrote:I guess I just don't understand how one person can be both an intellectual and ignorant at the same time.
Seriously?
It's very common.
In what ways would you be considered ignorant, Daniel? Now don't go cutesy in your reply by saying you are ignorant of microbiology. When the LDS Church promots JSJr as being an ignorant farm boy in 1820, they were not referring for example to his lack of knowing about early Renaissance art. So keep your reply with the scope of that which is germane. This is, after all, Mormon Discussions, not smart-alecs-are-us.
Obiwan wrote: Joseph Smith "Growing up" a basically ignorant farm boy is not the same as LATER ON becoming a great intellectual thinker. Hello..... McFly.....
Except Smith never became a great intellectual thinker. He only became more creative in his cons, until he ended up buying into them himself.
Obiwan wrote: Joseph Smith "Growing up" a basically ignorant farm boy is not the same as LATER ON becoming a great intellectual thinker. Hello..... McFly.....
Except Smith never became a great intellectual thinker. He only became more creative in his cons, until he ended up buying into them himself.
Hi, Milesius, I think there was self-delusion going on, but I think a part of JSJr's psyche always knew the score and he was being devious, not completely off in a world of self-delusion. For example, just weeks before his demise (5/26/1844), he publicly denied 'spiritual wifery' claiming he could only find but one wife. He knew these 'polygamous wives' were just paramours, some 'catnip' on the side.
JSJr's self-delusion fits better in the category of megalomania.
Dan, come on. If you have a legitimate point here, then make it. We've got example after example of Packer going after various LDS intellectuals, including stuff over on B23's "archive" thread--and this is in addition to his infamous "Mantle" talk--and in response to that, all you can muster up is these one-liners. Frankly, it seems like your making those posts because you feel you have to---as if the Brethren have started to pay attention to your online behavior, and this is your means of sucking up to them.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14