Am I responsible for the "culture" of MormonDiscussions.com?

[_Blixa]

Hi Jersey Girl,

but I honestly don't think he see's the overall status of the board right now.

I know that I am a rookie of sorts around these parts but if I may ask you, what do you see as the overall status of the board right now?

(In an effort to be crystal clear, I am simply just curious as to what your take is)

Thanks in advance.

Peace,
Ceeboo

I'm not Jersey Girl, but I think the jerky-ness factor has been increased on "all sides." There are a number of people that if I ran the board my way I would outright ban---for relentless and moronic personal attacks, provocation and lying. The lying part always gets me.

Anyway, I think a lot of the rules in place now are good, they just aren't enforced efficiently because there are so few moderators. There are also a few very strange anti-social loose cannons around now that I think can not be trusted. I'd really like to see something done about them.

[_Simon Belmont]

I'm not Jersey Girl, but I think the jerky-ness factor has been increased on "all sides." There are a number of people that if I ran the board my way I would outright ban---for relentless and moronic personal attacks, provocation and lying. The lying part always gets me.

Anyway, I think a lot of the rules in place now are good, they just aren't enforced efficiently because there are so few moderators. There are also a few very strange anti-social loose cannons around now that I think can not be trusted. I'd really like to see something done about them.

Why does lying on a Internet message board get to you so much? Many of us are lying by using handles instead of our real names (unless, of course, your name is actually "Blixa"). Many of us are lying by creating sock puppets. Many of us are lying acting totally different here than we do in real life.

[_sock puppet]

I'm not Jersey Girl, but I think the jerky-ness factor has been increased on "all sides." There are a number of people that if I ran the board my way I would outright ban---for relentless and moronic personal attacks, provocation and lying. The lying part always gets me.

Anyway, I think a lot of the rules in place now are good, they just aren't enforced efficiently because there are so few moderators. There are also a few very strange anti-social loose cannons around now that I think can not be trusted. I'd really like to see something done about them.

Why does lying on a Internet message board get to you so much? Many of us are lying by using handles instead of our real names (unless, of course, your name is actually "Blixa"). Many of us are lying by creating sock puppets. Many of us are lying acting totally different here than we do in real life.

Simon, name one reader of MDB that has been deceived into thinking my in real life name is "sock puppet" or that "Blixa" is the in real life name of the poster whose registration is "Blixa"?

[_Jersey Girl]

I'm not Jersey Girl, but I think the jerky-ness factor has been increased on "all sides." There are a number of people that if I ran the board my way I would outright ban---for relentless and moronic personal attacks, provocation and lying. The lying part always gets me.

Anyway, I think a lot of the rules in place now are good, they just aren't enforced efficiently because there are so few moderators. There are also a few very strange anti-social loose cannons around now that I think can not be trusted. I'd really like to see something done about them.

What Blixa said, Ceeboo.

Every so often, this board reaches critical mass with regards to personal attack and posters whose sole purpose on this board appears to be to throw drive by mud on other posters. In addition to those troll-like posters, recent events got this board shut down. The aftermath of that has been one huge pissing contest to see who can out-expose/embarrass/disparage/mock the other. Blixa see's what I'm talking about or she wouldn't have posted what she has.

In the words of Dave Ramsey (who doesn't love Dave Ramsey?), I say, "Pull that thing out by the roots".

:-)

The existing rules are good, they are not being acted upon. I understand that the admin team are volunteers, all of whom work full time jobs in real life. Believe me when I tell you that I understand. I would not criticize without putting my money where my virtual mouth is. In fact, I did just that by making suggestions to Shades recently (as I often do when the board is about to pop a gasket) but did so short of volunteering.

[_Ceeboo]

Hey Blixa,

I'm not Jersey Girl, but I think the jerky-ness factor has been increased on "all sides." There are a number of people that if I ran the board my way I would outright ban---for relentless and moronic personal attacks, provocation and lying. The lying part always gets me.

Anyway, I think a lot of the rules in place now are good, they just aren't enforced efficiently because there are so few moderators. There are also a few very strange anti-social loose cannons around now that I think can not be trusted. I'd really like to see something done about them.

Thanks, Blixa (I appreciate the reply)

Because I am a never-Mo, relatively new to the MDB, have experience with MD&D, consider members on both boards to be good and decent people, and probably will never really understand what is at the roots of these "things", I will not offer my opinions as to what this board (or any other board) should do.

My journey here, at MDB, has been very enjoyable, humbling, interesting, and most worthy of my time. As I have for the last 4-5 years, I consider myself a guest in the home of Mormons (No matter if they are Ex-Mormons or not)

Anyhooo, thanks again for the reply.

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_Jersey Girl]

I'm not Jersey Girl, but I think the jerky-ness factor has been increased on "all sides." There are a number of people that if I ran the board my way I would outright ban---for relentless and moronic personal attacks, provocation and lying. The lying part always gets me.

Anyway, I think a lot of the rules in place now are good, they just aren't enforced efficiently because there are so few moderators. There are also a few very strange anti-social loose cannons around now that I think can not be trusted. I'd really like to see something done about them.

Why does lying on a Internet message board get to you so much? Many of us are lying by using handles instead of our real names (unless, of course, your name is actually "Blixa"). Many of us are lying by creating sock puppets. Many of us are lying acting totally different here than we do in real life.

Belmont,

You are conflating the issue that Blixa is raising. I suppose you think that it somehow has to do with you. Not intending to speak for Blixa, I think she is talking about her being accused of making death threads in the SGW affair.

[_Pahoran]

Pahoran,

I would be less than honest if I didn't state publicly that I agree with the overall message of your above post.

I have no problem with profanity, as you well know. :-)

I do however, have a huge problem with the onslaught of personal threads, personal attacks in the form of poster bashing, the use of links to Facebook to draw attention to photographs of posters and their families, and the recent use of "memegenerator" wherein photos of posters may now be viewed with obscene material written on them.

This leaves me with one foot in chat and the other foot already out the door.

Why should I have to step through mountains of beer bottles and trash on the front lawn in order to get to the front door of a legitimate topic?

Thank you, Jersey Girl. Actually I can't recall seeing you using profanity, only that you don't obviously flinch when it appears.

I agree with you about the personal threads and poster bashing. for what it's worth, neither I nor anyone I know of was any more pleased with the Kevin Graham "memegenerator" nonsense than the Juliann nonsense. The idiot who started the Juliann "meme" was a foul-minded coward who will probably never fess up (and I have a suspect.) The idiot who started the Kevin Graham "meme" was an even more foul-minded coward who couldn't even think of any original way to be spiteful. And I see both of these as merely an escalation of the conflict this board started and continues to promote.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Jersey Girl]

Pahoran

Thank you, Jersey Girl. Actually I can't recall seeing you using profanity, only that you don't obviously flinch when it appears.

Probably because you haven't stuck around here long enough to see it. :-)

I agree with you about the personal threads and poster bashing. for what it's worth, neither I nor anyone I know of was any more pleased with the Kevin Graham "memegenerator" nonsense than the Juliann nonsense. The idiot who started the Juliann "meme" was a foul-minded coward who will probably never fess up (and I have a suspect.) The idiot who started the Kevin Graham "meme" was an even more foul-minded coward who couldn't even think of any original way to be spiteful. And I see both of these as merely an escalation of the conflict this board started and continues to promote.

I agree.

Look, I know that you have no particular investment in the future of this board. I do know that ever since MD&D linked to this board, that the number of guest viewing has sky rocketed.

I wonder what they might do if they actually felt welcome here?

Hmm...maybe join us.
:-)

[_Pahoran]

Belmont,

You are conflating the issue that Blixa is raising. I suppose you think that it somehow has to do with you. Not intending to speak for Blixa, I think she is talking about her being accused of making death threads in the SGW affair.

Death threads? What are they? Clothes with skulls and crossbones embroidered on them?

Or did you mean death threats?

Maybe whoever said that was just commenting on her avatar, which is rather scary in a black-cute sort of way.

But if not, and someone was seriously accusing her of threatening somebody, then that's the sort of thing that ought to be moderated.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Jersey Girl]

Belmont,

You are conflating the issue that Blixa is raising. I suppose you think that it somehow has to do with you. Not intending to speak for Blixa, I think she is talking about her being accused of making death threads in the SGW affair.

Death threads? What are they? Clothes with skulls and crossbones embroidered on them?

Or did you mean death threats?

Maybe whoever said that was just commenting on her avatar, which is rather scary in a black-cute sort of way.

But if not, and someone was seriously accusing her of threatening somebody, then that's the sort of thing that ought to be moderated.

Regards,
Pahoran

LOL...I meant "death threats".

:-D