Simon Belmont wrote:I've got to be honest with you, Larsen, and I mean no offense personally: this sounds like a juvenile idea. "We're mad at Mormonism so we're going to make our own community!"
Yeah, it sounds very much like what JSJr did in 1830, doesn't it?
sock puppet wrote:Yeah, it sounds very much like what JSJr did in 1830, doesn't it?
Nope.
Come now, Simon. It's very akin to JSJr rejecting all existing religious organizations and starting a new organization. Anyone with a masters in philosophy would see the parallels.
sock puppet wrote:Come now, Simon. It's very akin to JSJr rejecting all existing religious organizations and starting a new organization. Anyone with a masters in philosophy would see the parallels.
One needs a masters to see this parallel?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
sock puppet wrote:Come now, Simon. It's very akin to JSJr rejecting all existing religious organizations and starting a new organization. Anyone with a masters in philosophy would see the parallels.
No. Joseph Smith was not angry with any religion, he just wanted to know which one to join. God told him to start his own.
This is a juvenile attempt at copying something that's already been done to death.
sock puppet wrote:Come now, Simon. It's very akin to JSJr rejecting all existing religious organizations and starting a new organization. Anyone with a masters in philosophy would see the parallels.
No. Joseph Smith was not angry with any religion, he just wanted to know which one to join. God told him to start his own.
This is a juvenile attempt at copying something that's already been done to death.
It must sting, right Simon, when you see that you are complaining of someone doing just what your religious hero did?
Buffalo wrote: What specifically is cultish about it?
The name. It sounds creepy and new age cultish. But like I said on page one of this thread, the organization will fail as more people join and have power clashes and envy. Unless of course, it does become a cult with john and his wife as cult leaders demanding absolute loyality to the leaders. But the name sounds cultish and compoundish.
Oh, the name? I thought you had something substantive to say. Silly me.
The name reminds me of various non-denom liberal Christian churches - which are really the opposite of cults, which tend to be authoritarian and oppressive.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Droopy wrote: Leave it to bc to do a cannonball right in the middle of the pool just as everyone's changed into dry clothes.
Heh heh...
In any event, yes, its all a part of the "secret combinations" and "spiritual wickedness in high places" of the Last Days. Its simply yet more, if urbane and sophisticated, warmed over Korihorism.
He that has ears to hear, as the scriptures plead with us, let him hear.
Do you know how to recognize secret combinations? They have secret handshakes and passwords. My community doesn't have any of those. Does your church?
Oh snippity snap!
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
John Larsen wrote: That is right. The purpose of the organization is to fulfill the role that religions typically play in a community without the metaphysics. God is irrelevant to the community.
Personally I think it's a great idea - if it works, you'd get all of the benefits of religion without the nonsense.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Simon Belmont wrote:Who needs community? I have me.
Larsen wrote:Do you know how to recognize secret combinations? They have secret handshakes and passwords. My community doesn't have any of those. Does your church?
Nope.
I didn't know you hadn't been through the temple yet, Simon. Are you making and plans to take out your endowments, or will you remain an unendowed member? :D
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.