There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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Christian and pseudo Christian religions give Jesus a lot of lip service, but none of them really seem to pay attention to what Jesus actually said. And there's a good reason for that. A lot of his advice is really terrible:

If you do something wrong with your eye or hand, cut/pluck it off (Matthew 5:29-30, in a sexual context).
Marrying a divorced woman is adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
Don't plan for the future. (Matthew 6:34)
Don't save money. (Matthew 6:19-20)
Don't become wealthy. (Mark 10:21-25)
Sell everything and give it to the poor. (Luke 12:33)
Don't work to obtain food. (John 6:27)
Make people want to persecute you. (Matthew 5:11)
If someone steals from you, don't try to get it back. (Luke 6:30)
If someone hits you, invite them to do it again. (Matthew 5:39)
If you lose a lawsuit, give more than the judgment. (Matthew 5:40)
If someone forces you to walk a mile, walk two miles. (Matthew 5:41)
If anyone asks you for anything, give it to them without question. (Matthew 5:42)
You should "hate" your family, and abandon your spouse and children for God (Luke 14:26, Matt. 19:29-30)

Frankly, this is just awful advice. I can't blame believers for not following it, but I do wonder at the disconnect between worshiping this guy and not bothering yourself about following his words.

And, of course, the reason why a lot of this advice is so bad is that Jesus sincerely believed that the end of the world was coming soon - there was no point in raising families and keeping gainful employment.
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Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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Yeah, it really is terrible advice. Not at all what the modern LDS church teaches.
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Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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Buff,

Don't forget about the picture of Jesus holding a kitten. I would venture to say there are good reasons to follow Jesus according to that picture. Kittens are very fuzzy and soft and nice people have them.

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Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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Buffalo wrote:Christian and pseudo Christian religions give Jesus a lot of lip service, but none of them really seem to pay attention to what Jesus actually said. And there's a good reason for that. A lot of his advice is really terrible:

If you do something wrong with your eye or hand, cut/pluck it off (Matthew 5:29-30, in a sexual context).
Marrying a divorced woman is adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
Don't plan for the future. (Matthew 6:34)
Don't save money. (Matthew 6:19-20)
Don't become wealthy. (Mark 10:21-25)
Sell everything and give it to the poor. (Luke 12:33)
Don't work to obtain food. (John 6:27)
Make people want to persecute you. (Matthew 5:11)
If someone steals from you, don't try to get it back. (Luke 6:30)
If someone hits you, invite them to do it again. (Matthew 5:39)
If you lose a lawsuit, give more than the judgment. (Matthew 5:40)
If someone forces you to walk a mile, walk two miles. (Matthew 5:41)
If anyone asks you for anything, give it to them without question. (Matthew 5:42)
You should "hate" your family, and abandon your spouse and children for God (Luke 14:26, Matt. 19:29-30)

Frankly, this is just awful advice. I can't blame believers for not following it, but I do wonder at the disconnect between worshiping this guy and not bothering yourself about following his words.

And, of course, the reason why a lot of this advice is so bad is that Jesus sincerely believed that the end of the world was coming soon - there was no point in raising families and keeping gainful employment.


You have to read the context.

He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.

I don't know that he taught that.

All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
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Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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Chap wrote:
You have to read the context.

He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.

I don't know that he taught that.

All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.


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You have to read the context.

He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.

I don't know that he taught that.

All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.


Yeah, that was pretty fun. but on to the op -

maybe buffalo can tell us what these verses mean, so that we know he knows what he's talking about. Here's a hint: no he can't. Plucking verses from their home and using them as ammunition is simply juvenile.
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Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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Hoops wrote:

You have to read the context.

He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.

I don't know that he taught that.

All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.


... Plucking verses from their home and using them as ammunition is simply juvenile.


Like I said?
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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Hello,

His scribe wrote most of this stuff. We don't know that he actually said that.

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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Hoops wrote:

You have to read the context.

He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.

I don't know that he taught that.

All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.


Yeah, that was pretty fun. but on to the op -

maybe buffalo can tell us what these verses mean, so that we know he knows what he's talking about. Here's a hint: no he can't. Plucking verses from their home and using them as ammunition is simply juvenile.


It's hilarious that your real response is exactly the same as Chap's parody. :D
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus

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Chap wrote:
You have to read the context.

He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.

I don't know that he taught that.

All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.


Hey Chap,

I don't care who you are, THAT was funny!


Brilliant!
Top 5 responses of all time.
Bravo!

Peace,
Ceeboo
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