Nemesis wrote:Even in Liz's attempt at reconciliation we see how she places blame on us stating they will stop attacking us if we stop attacking them.
I actually never placed that blame or made that statement. I simply stated that BOTH boards should stop the trashing. There was no "if, then" condition in my statements.
This was my exact quote, for what it's worth:
Liz wrote:Maybe BOTH boards can simply quit trying to turn the boards into each other, and just accept the differences for what they are.
We'll quit trashing MDD. You guys quit trashing MDB. We simply accept that the boards are different, and have different purposes.
I would also like to go beyond that, and establish that we quit trashing individuals. It's done routinely on BOTH sides of the aisle. I think it's important to remember that, whatever religion or beliefs we choose to engage in....we all have families...many of us are parents, grandparents, teachers, etc. I think there is more to celebrate about the positive attributes we share than the negative.
The connection that we all inevitably have, is that we are tied by some form or another to the LDS Church for very different reasons.
Even if some of those reasons have been negative, one aspect that I see is positive is that we have formed a variety of very strong friendships.
I would like to see the friendships as a whole celebrated, and the stupid fighting end once and for all.
I think that if both boards are simply willing to accept that the administrative styles to both boards are different....not better or worse from one another...just different....maybe this can be accomplished.
As you can see from the bolded part I emphasized, there is no "if, then" condition. It is simply a hope that both boards could accomplish this.
What I actually think is the most important is that we get away from attacking individuals. There is a huge difference in criticizing ideas and attacking someone personally.
When I was a Mod on FAIR, I didn't like the way some people attacked others. There were folks there who didn't even realize that was what they were doing. One conversation that comes to mind was with Charity. After I explained to her that some of her comments, and overall tone were more attacking on a personal basis than the content, she actually apologized, and changed her tone. She and I actually become quite good friends, and since I am now banned from that board, I miss the friendship we were able to establish, since I did not get her email address before that incident.
One rule that I would really like to change on this board is to have ALL personal attacks relegated to the Telestial Forum. I think that if we did that, topics would tend to stay on task more easily.
If it were my board, I would do away with ALL personal attacks, but I do understand Shades' vision for censorship, and I think that this would be a good compromise.
I would also like to see more consistent consequences for rule breakers.
Shades may want to think about recruiting a couple more moderators. If anyone is interested, I know that Shades would be interested in reading your PM's. As much as I enjoy Moderating on Shades' board, and still support Shades' vision for free speech, my new job has become more demanding, and I have, unfortunately, had less time to commit to the board, overall.
I know that many of you here don't agree with me, which is fine....that's what a free speech board is about. ;-)
In spite of differences that we may have, though, I do want to make it clear that the constant that keeps me active in both posting and moderating on this board is the array of friendships I have established here. Although we live in various parts of the world, we are able to communicate as if we live next door, and I think that is great! There are several of you here....Jersey Girl, Runtu, Dan Peterson, Bond, Harmony, Shades, Porter...and I know I am leaving others out....who I have in real life connections with, either through Facebook, email, phone, or a combination. Those friendships are extremely important to me, and you folks have become like a second family to me over the years.
I really hope that we can move beyond all of this nonsense, and just get along.