Though I do mourn the winnowing out of many things that have made Mormonism unique. While this process has been going on for a long time, I do feel it has been escalating of late in efforts to "mainstream."
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
I am asking if you aware of some change major or minor that isn't following the outside secular or Christian world but rather leading it and the outside secular or Christian world would then follow?
I don't' know. I don't really want to quibble about specifics. its getting far from my point, anyway.
Are you aware of any example of that? If not dynamic change is simply parroting the real change taking place in the secular and outside Christian world. Revelation is therefore not necessary, silly even.
regards, mikwut
I don't care to challenge your opinion. It doesn't really concern me or my point, and I more than welcome your opinion.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Blixa wrote:Agree. Though I do mourn the winnowing out of many things that have made Mormonism unique. While this process has been going on for a long time, I do feel it has been escalating of late in efforts to "mainstream."
Exactly. My primary emotions are a cautious optimism curiously mixed with a profound sense of loss.
When my two sons started school, it had a very real civilizing effect on them. They were with other children and had to conform to normal behavior. That made things much more pleasant around home.
Praise be that Mormons are now on center stage and I am saying that as one who lives in Salt Lake Valley.
moksha wrote:When my two sons started school, it had a very real civilizing effect on them. They were with other children and had to conform to normal behavior. That made things much more pleasant around home.
Praise be that Mormons are now on center stage and I am saying that as one who lives in Salt Lake Valley.
Even if it means the decline and eventual fall of the Church?
Great analogy of your kids, though!
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
zeezrom wrote:I admit sometimes I'm uncomfortable with this. I think it stems from selfishness and fear and should be avoided. The author of this article makes the same point http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on- ... _blog.html
She relates it to women in the workplace who are joked about by men who are uncomfortable with women rising in power from the fringe to center stage.
There is something else I fear. It's something I'm terribly uncomfortable with. I don't really know why because I'm sort of distant from the religion now. I fear the church is changing. I fear they will lose the "interesting" factor. I fear their belief in gods will be forgotten. I fear they will conform. I see it inevitable as part of moving to center stage.
Is that why I don't want LDS to grow?
I think inherently the Church was set up to be able to change, to some extent. We truly accept the notion that we accept all the future truths that will be known by mankind. The dynamic element is one thing that sets the Church apart. To me, its a good thing.
Sets the Church apart from what? What religion hasn't changed over time?
With the LDS Church, what's funny is when a lifelong general authority that rises to the rank of prophet doesn't even know what the hell its doctrine is, or so he feigned.
I was not happy to learn of the occult edifice they built in Italy or the one they are building in close proximity to me. (I already had to live in the shadow of one when I was at UCSD.)
Every soul that gets newly duped into the LDS Church, thereby foregoing part of lifes pleasures and enjoyment in exchange for a supposed E ticket in heaven? Yeah, it makes me uncomfortable anytime I see a group of people leveraging someone's fear of death and beyond to exact money, etc. from them.
I am not uncomfortable at all. I revel in it. "The truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent," the glorious Prophet Joseph Smith declared, "till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done."
Frank J Sheed wrote:I am not uncomfortable at all. I revel in it. "The truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent," the glorious Prophet Joseph Smith declared, "till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done."
Yes indeed. Fresh triumphs await.
Sometime soon the percentage of the US population willing to identify itself as 'LDS Mormon' when asked will soar from the present 1.4% figure where it has been for most of the past decade to an astonishing and glorious 1.45%.
Maybe even higher, if we all pray and fast a lot?
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.