Rumor about Quinn

[_bcspace]

Yeah, real cool. They call them the Provo Danites.

Now based in American Fork since Provo has gone downhill recently.

[Guest]

Hello,

[Personal attack deleted by mod Scottie]
V/R
Dr. Cameron

Hello Mr. Scottie,

What was different from what Mr. Peterson did with his folks?

V/R
Dr. Cam

[_Doctor Scratch]

I never suspected this rumor was true but was hoping someone had the correct background story so I could show it to my friend and set her on the correct path.

Now, let's talk about the LDS hit squad. Do I think that is a possibility? Sure, why not? Ever since Uncle Dale told me what might happen if I call COB asking for the Book of the Law of the Lord, I have been scared to follow through.

A couple of thoughts here, Zeez. For one thing, while the bit about the "hit squad" is wrong, the general eeriness of what happened with Quinn is dead-on. Now, I'm just going off memory here, but as I recall, what happened was that Quinn was basically in hiding from the Church. He'd heard through the grapevine that the Powers that Be were gunning for him, and so he high-tailed it off to New Orleans as a kind of self-imposed exile.

Meanwhile, the Church was trying to track him down. They went looking for him at his mother's house, but his mom had been given strict instructions not to tell anyone where Quinn was. Then, If I recall correctly, they tried to get Quinn's attorney to tell them where he was, but the lawyer didn't budge. Apparently, they wanted to locate his actual, physical address, since they need that--per the bizarre, bureaucratic rules--in order to begin Church disciplinary action. Later, he visited his ex-wife and kids, and it turned out that there was some mail there for him, including an application for some kind of zero APR credit card, and so he went ahead and filled this out.

Later, when he was back in New Orleans, he got a phone call from the credit card company, and they wanted his address. The thing is: he had a P.O. Box, which was the address he gave out when he filled out the credit card application, but this person who called him was asking for his actual, physical street address. Quinn said that he said something to the effect of, "Why do you need my physical address when you have my P.O. box?" and the person on the phone began sort of stammering and backtracking, etc. When he got off the phone, he went digging a bit and made some phone calls and was able to determine that the credit card and phone call had originated out of Salt Lake City.

So: not quite "death squads," but it does seem as if the Church was doing some remarkably strange and creepy surveillance-type things in an effort to track him down.

And all that said, it's not totally misguided to have lingering fears about LDS "death squads" or Danites. These things seemed to have been a historical reality clear up through the end of the 19th century, and perhaps beyond. So there is a historical basis for your (and others') concerns. There is a whole spectrum of ways that the Church can put the hurt on somebody, though, and nowadays "death" seems to be off the table.

[_lostindc]

I never suspected this rumor was true but was hoping someone had the correct background story so I could show it to my friend and set her on the correct path.

Now, let's talk about the LDS hit squad. Do I think that is a possibility? Sure, why not? Ever since Uncle Dale told me what might happen if I call COB asking for the Book of the Law of the Lord, I have been scared to follow through.

A couple of thoughts here, Zeez. For one thing, while the bit about the "hit squad" is wrong, the general eeriness of what happened with Quinn is dead-on. Now, I'm just going off memory here, but as I recall, what happened was that Quinn was basically in hiding from the Church. He'd heard through the grapevine that the Powers that Be were gunning for him, and so he high-tailed it off to New Orleans as a kind of self-imposed exile.

Meanwhile, the Church was trying to track him down. They went looking for him at his mother's house, but his mom had been given strict instructions not to tell anyone where Quinn was. Then, If I recall correctly, they tried to get Quinn's attorney to tell them where he was, but the lawyer didn't budge. Apparently, they wanted to locate his actual, physical address, since they need that--per the bizarre, bureaucratic rules--in order to begin Church disciplinary action. Later, he visited his ex-wife and kids, and it turned out that there was some mail there for him, including an application for some kind of zero APR credit card, and so he went ahead and filled this out.

Later, when he was back in New Orleans, he got a phone call from the credit card company, and they wanted his address. The thing is: he had a P.O. Box, which was the address he gave out when he filled out the credit card application, but this person who called him was asking for his actual, physical street address. Quinn said that he said something to the effect of, "Why do you need my physical address when you have my P.O. box?" and the person on the phone began sort of stammering and backtracking, etc. When he got off the phone, he went digging a bit and made some phone calls and was able to determine that the credit card and phone call had originated out of Salt Lake City.

So: not quite "death squads," but it does seem as if the Church was doing some remarkably strange and creepy surveillance-type things in an effort to track him down.

And all that said, it's not totally misguided to have lingering fears about LDS "death squads" or Danites. These things seemed to have been a historical reality clear up through the end of the 19th century, and perhaps beyond. So there is a historical basis for your (and others') concerns. There is a whole spectrum of ways that the Church can put the hurt on somebody, though, and nowadays "death" seems to be off the table.

I am not discounted the story but does not SLC house discover and few other major credit card companies. Furthermore, most banking institutions prefer a physical street address, such as an e 911 address. The vast majority of US houses have an e 911 address.

[_Doctor Scratch]

I am not discounted the story but does not Salt Lake City house discover and few other major credit card companies. Furthermore, most banking institutions prefer a physical street address, such as an e 911 address. The vast majority of US houses have an e 911 address.

(A) Yes, I'm pretty sure that some of the big CC companies are located in SLC. (American Express is one, I think.)

(B) As I understood the story, there is literally no reason why the person on the phone would have even known that Quinn got mail at some address other than the P.O. Box. It's likely that I'm not recalling all the details, but the story gave me a clear sense that the CC person on the phone was prying for non-essential details. (Plus, might the preferences you're referring to have been somewhat different in the late 1980s-early 1990s?)

[_lostindc]

(A) Yes, I'm pretty sure that some of the big CC companies are located in Salt Lake City. (American Express is one, I think.)

(B) As I understood the story, there is literally no reason why the person on the phone would have even known that Quinn got mail at some address other than the P.O. Box. It's likely that I'm not recalling all the details, but the story gave me a clear sense that the CC person on the phone was prying for non-essential details. (Plus, might the preferences you're referring to have been somewhat different in the late 1980s-early 1990s?)

I have to agree that a CC company likely did not need that information during this time. Please note, I was not aware of the time frame when the incident occurred. I also have to agree that they were likely pretty pissed at Quinn. Unfortunately, we likely will not get to hear the full story because Quinn may never know who it was stalking him.

[_Kishkumen]

A couple of thoughts here, Zeez. For one thing, while the bit about the "hit squad" is wrong, the general eeriness of what happened with Quinn is dead-on. Now, I'm just going off memory here, but as I recall, what happened was that Quinn was basically in hiding from the Church. He'd heard through the grapevine that the Powers that Be were gunning for him, and so he high-tailed it off to New Orleans as a kind of self-imposed exile.

Meanwhile, the Church was trying to track him down. They went looking for him at his mother's house, but his mom had been given strict instructions not to tell anyone where Quinn was. Then, If I recall correctly, they tried to get Quinn's attorney to tell them where he was, but the lawyer didn't budge. Apparently, they wanted to locate his actual, physical address, since they need that--per the bizarre, bureaucratic rules--in order to begin Church disciplinary action. Later, he visited his ex-wife and kids, and it turned out that there was some mail there for him, including an application for some kind of zero APR credit card, and so he went ahead and filled this out.

Later, when he was back in New Orleans, he got a phone call from the credit card company, and they wanted his address. The thing is: he had a P.O. Box, which was the address he gave out when he filled out the credit card application, but this person who called him was asking for his actual, physical street address. Quinn said that he said something to the effect of, "Why do you need my physical address when you have my P.O. box?" and the person on the phone began sort of stammering and backtracking, etc. When he got off the phone, he went digging a bit and made some phone calls and was able to determine that the credit card and phone call had originated out of Salt Lake City.

So: not quite "death squads," but it does seem as if the Church was doing some remarkably strange and creepy surveillance-type things in an effort to track him down.

I heard the same story about Quinn from another source.

And, it does seem to me that the Church will go to unusual lengths to track people down. For example, my brother was not attending church meetings, the church had essentially lost him, and they proceeded to call everyone in the family they had contact information for to track him down. We all told the bureaucrats searching for my brother that if he wanted to go to church, he could easily find his own way into a chapel.

Recently, the Relief Society president of the ward whose boundaries we live in used false pretenses to extract my wife's phone number from me. She pretended to be a friend of my wife and never mentioned that she was the ward Relief Society president. Man was my wife steamed when the Relief Society president called her. I sure had to answer for that goof.

[_why me]

LDS culture promotes harrassment while prohibiting outright murder. However, that does not eliminate the possibility of mentally unbalanced radical adherents from reverting to the previous crude techniques.

Like priests who molest children. Please get a life. How about this: catholic culture promotes child molestation while prohibiting outright murder, However, that does not eliminate the possiblity of mentally unbalanced priests from reverting to the previous cude practice.

Gosh, I can't take self righteous catholics bashing LDS culture.

[_why me]

Having met zeezrom in person, I got a great chuckle from this knuckleheaded post.

Zeezrom isn't the type of person to go "fishing" for rumors. Clearly he is the type of person who seeks out the truth when he hears one.

Zee, is in the mood to accept any negative about the LDS church that he can get his hands on. Thus, the birth of this thread. Now it is true, that he posted his OP as a question but he was hoping for a confirmation.

[_Buffalo]

Having met zeezrom in person, I got a great chuckle from this knuckleheaded post.

Zeezrom isn't the type of person to go "fishing" for rumors. Clearly he is the type of person who seeks out the truth when he hears one.

Zee, is in the mood to accept any negative about the LDS church that he can get his hands on. Thus, the birth of this thread. Now it is true, that he posted his OP as a question but he was hoping for a confirmation.

Anyone who has interacted with Zeez even a little knows that's not true.