Rumor about Quinn

[_Yahoo Bot]

Life's too short to be such a vile person. Bad Karma, man.

Hello Mr. Yahoo Bot,

I agree. You should give it a shot.

V/R
Dr. Cameron

The playground retort, "Oh yeah, you too," isn't very persuasive.

You make vile assertions in vile ways. Change your ways. Treat people respectfully while disagreeing with them. “Whoever slanders his neighbor in secret/Him will I put to silence.” (Psalms 101:5 (NIV)).

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

The playground retort, "Oh yeah, you too," isn't very persuasive.

You make vile assertions in vile ways. Change your ways. Treat people respectfully while disagreeing with them. “Whoever slanders his neighbor in secret/Him will I put to silence.” (Psalms 101:5 (NIV)).

Hello Mr. Yahoo Bot,

In the interest in building bridges I'll take you up on the offer. If you treat people with respect I'll treat you with respect. Offered in good faith, Good Sir. I look forward to you contributing to the forum constructively.

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Dr. Cameron

[_Kishkumen]

I think there is a time to let go. Yahoo Bot has some real wisdom here. Whatever has or has not happened in the past, we cannot move on if we constantly revisit it to stoke bad feelings all around.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Please.
...

Hello Mr. Scottie,

You never answered my question. What was different between my musings and Mr. Peterson's rumormongering?

V/R
Dr. Cameron

[_Scottie]

Please.
...

Hello Mr. Scottie,

You never answered my question. What was different between my musings and Mr. Peterson's rumormongering?

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Dr. Cameron

I did answer your question.

I don't see any difference. If Dr. Peterson posts malicious rumors on this board, I will delete them as well.

Please keep in mind these are new rules and we are not going to rummage through thousands of previous posts and edit unsavory comments.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Hello Mr. Scottie,

Mr. Peterson was a key factor behind the outing of Mr. Quinn, which essentially ended his professional career.

I want to know, rumor-wise, what the difference is between my surmising Mr. Peterson is a closeted homosexual with what he did to Mr. Quinn. I don't consider homosexuality to be an insult, so I don't know why you'd delete my comment.

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Dr. Cameron

The above is, technically, actionable libel.

Additionally, Dr. Peterson did not "out" Dr. Quinn. Mike "outed" himself to his friends at an MHA conference in which I was in attendance, in front of many people whose names many of you would recognize. What the venom directed to Dr. Peterson is about is apparently regarding a conversation Dr. Peterson had casually with Dr. Quinn's stake president years after Dr. Quinn had come out.

Dr. Quinn has never claimed that he was outed by Dr. Peterson, and the description of his life's journey does not include a nasty tale about Dr. Peterson. A tale invented completely by Mr. Scratch.

I was absolutely not a "key factor" in the outing of Mike Quinn. In fact, I wasn't a factor at all. (I was, it seems, one of the last in "Mormon studies" circles even to know that he was a homosexual. Which is scarcely surprising, since I was out of Utah and thus largely out of the loop from 1977 until 1985, and in the Middle East for fully 4.5 years of that period.)

This charge is a grotesque distortion of reality at the least, if it isn't a flat out lie. It's the perhaps the worst of Scratch's many, many scurrilous attempts at defaming me. As noted above, even Quinn himself has never made such a charge, though he hasn't hesitated at all to criticize me harshly on other grounds.

I had nothing whatever to do with "ending his career," which, so far as I know, hasn't ended -- though it has taken a rather unconventional turn. I possess absolutely nothing remotely resembling the power to block Mike Quinn from finding employment at each and every one of the 2,000-4,000 colleges in the United States. The accusation is ridiculous on its face.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I don't see any difference.

Hello Mr. Scottie,

Ah. I didn't see your answer. Thank you for your input.

I agree. Mr. Peterson's musings about Dr. Quinn's sexuality was a sad affair which led to Dr. Quinn's dismissal.

V/R
Dr. Cam

[_Daniel Peterson]

Mr. Peterson's musings about Dr. Quinn's sexuality was a sad affair which led to Dr. Quinn's dismissal.

That is absolutely false.

Stop repeating it.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I was absolutely not a "key factor" in the outing of Mike Quinn. In fact, I wasn't a factor at all. (I was, it seems, one of the last in "Mormon studies" circles even to know that he was a homosexual. Which is scarcely surprising, since I was out of Utah and thus largely out of the loop from 1977 until 1985, and in the Middle East for fully 4.5 years of that period.)

This charge is a grotesque distortion of reality at the least, if it isn't a flat out lie. It's the perhaps the worst of Scratch's many, many scurrilous attempts at defaming me. As noted above, even Quinn himself has never made such a charge, though he hasn't hesitated at all to criticize me harshly on other grounds.

I had nothing whatever to do with "ending his career," which, so far as I know, hasn't ended -- though it has taken a rather unconventional turn. I possess absolutely nothing remotely resembling the power to block Mike Quinn from finding employment at each and every one of the 2,000-4,000 colleges in the United States. The accusation is ridiculous on its face.

Hello Mr. Peterson,

Did you or did you not rumormonger reference Dr. Quinn's sexuality?

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Dr. Cam

[_Daniel Peterson]

Did you or did you not rumormonger reference Dr. Quinn's sexuality?

I did not.

That's essentially Scratch's libelous invention, and you appear to bought it, hook, line, and sinker.

However, the topic has been discussed a couple of dozen times here, and I'm not going to waste more time on it.

But the notion that I have interfered with Mike Quinn's employment, whether at BYU or anyplace else, is a flat out lie, and I don't find it remotely amusing.