Rumor about Quinn

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_Jersey Girl
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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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I wasn't going to say anything but you know what, Cam? The remark in question was made a year ago. Stop jerking around the moderators.
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_Daniel Peterson
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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:We have Doctor Scratch quoting Dr. Peterson admitting that he did, indeed, talk about Dr. Quinn's sexuality prior to Dr. Quinn's dismissal even though Dr. Peterson stated today that he did not say that. Dr. Peterson even insinuated a threat to sue me if I didn't recant my earlier assertion that he said that.

Oh my. I don't know what to believe anymore!

Where did I admit that I had talked about Mike Quinn's sexuality prior to his "dismissal" from BYU?

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Did Dr. Peterson discuss Dr. Quinn's sexuality prior to his dismissal [sic]? Apparently so.

No, I did not.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:So who is lying?

Probably nobody in this case.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Dr. Peterson who states he did not, but then is quoted as admitting that he did?

I never admitted anything of the sort.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Dr. Scratch who simply quoted something Dr. Peterson himself wrote?

You mean the thing in which I expressed some uncertainty as to the date, and regarding which I've now laid out my reasoning for being confident that the date was wrong?

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I truly believed Dr. Peterson when he said he didn't do that, but now I'm faced with a quote from Dr. Peterson himself admitting to discussing Dr. Quinn's sexuality prior to Dr. Quinn's dismissal [sic].

I'm stunned. Surely Dr. Peterson wouldn't lie about this matter, but then I'm faced with a verified quote that he did. This is perplexing...

Sigh. Yahoo Bot was right.

It is pointless.
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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Post Script- Hello Mr. Pahoran. I don't know who you are & I certainly don't know that you hold a PhD in any field.

Well, I don't hold a PhD in any field.

But Dan and Kish do, and you call them both "Mr."

You, Scratch and Shades do not; but, like Hurlbut, you all call yourselves by that title.

I'm not all that fussed about academic honorifics, myself. But if they are going to be used, then please use them for those who have actually earned them.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Speaking of faux politeness... "Regards"....

Okay then.

V/R
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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello Ms. Liz,

Simply use the search feature and type in "recchione". That said, I'm actually not bothered by his "slur" because I'm not bothered by homosexuality, but I don't like Moderator Scottie's double standard.

Thank you in advance.

V/R
Dr. Cam


OK, Cam.

I took care of it:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13760&p=341488#p341488

For the record, though. Scottie is right. We are not going to be back-tracking posts that took place years ago as a rule.

We are trying to make a change from this point forward. If everyone really wants all personal attacks deleted from years ago, we will need A LOT more Mods to accomplish it. ;-)
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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello,

Well.

We have Doctor Scratch quoting Dr. Peterson admitting that he did, indeed, talk about Dr. Quinn's sexuality prior to Dr. Quinn's dismissal even though Dr. Peterson stated today that he did not say that. Dr. Peterson even insinuated a threat to sue me if I didn't recant my earlier assertion that he said that.

Oh my. I don't know what to believe anymore!

Did Dr. Peterson discuss Dr. Quinn's sexuality prior to his dismissal? Apparently so.

So who is lying?

Dr. Peterson who states he did not, but then is quoted as admitting that he did?

Dr. Scratch who simply quoted something Dr. Peterson himself wrote?

I truly believed Dr. Peterson when he said he didn't do that, but now I'm faced with a quote from Dr. Peterson himself admitting to discussing Dr. Quinn's sexuality prior to Dr. Quinn's dismissal.

I'm stunned. Surely Dr. Peterson wouldn't lie about this matter, but then I'm faced with a verified quote that he did. This is perplexing...

No it isn't.

Read Dan's response. It makes it all quite clear.

The only thing that is "perplexing" was your posts insisting that we ought to take Dan at his word and that Old Scratch should admit he was mistaken. I thought that was uncharacteristically generous of you.

Now I see you were simply setting Dan up.

Ten to one you and Old Scratch colluded in that.

If you take the Kevin Graham/Ms Jack approach to such things -- as of course you do -- then you will assume that Dan was lying. If, however, you approach this question like a reasonable person, discussing something in good faith, then you will accept that Dan's recollection is most likely correct.

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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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If you take the Kevin Graham/Ms Jack approach to such things -- as of course you do -- then you will assume that Dan was lying. If, however, you approach this question like a reasonable person, discussing something in good faith, then you will accept that Dan's recollection is most likely correct


I never said anything about Dan and Quinn and I doubt MsJack has either. Don't care. You're the idiot who proved himself "unreasonable" over and over taking the word for a known liar (Schryver), while pissing on everyone else's testimony, simply because you consider them "traitors." You then went to hang your view on the assumption that the Dude agreed with you, but then he later came and said you didn't know what you were talking about.
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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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I have to admit, given Cam4Whatever's most recent posts here, that the whole thing does seem more than a bit suspicious. I was taken aback by Cam4's apparent fairness, which I have never, ever, previously seen from him, and was just about to post something complimentary about it, when I suddenly encountered his new tack.

I've been very open on this matter, posting in good faith to the best of my recollection, and have provided much more detail than any of the critics here had a right to expect from me.

I've been too naïve again.

Live and learn. (But how many times?)
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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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Daniel Peterson wrote:Live and learn. (But how many times?)

You only live one.

Hopefully one learns more than that number of times.
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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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Daniel Peterson wrote:I've been too naïve again.

Live and learn. (But how many times?)


That's one of your most admirable qualities. You trust where others give up, and have faith where almost all is gone. Like Enoch or Ammon braving the unbelievers, or Noah facing endless ridicule - you never give up. You probably have little idea of the high respect in which I hold you - just for being here, and for being who you are.
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Re: Rumor about Quinn

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Thanks, Ray. All the best to you.
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