Lol...I can't tell if droopy has a man-crush on Kevin or if he is just jealous that Kevin actually has real, persuasive, arguments/communication skills that seem to escape droopy's limited intellect...either way, its funny to watch...
This is irony of epic proportions. I mean, Robert E. Howard proportions.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Droopy wrote:Is it not interesting, consig, how many of us at the MADboard saw you moving rapidly out of the Church a long time ago, and said so? And is it not interesting how you bristled at the notion that you were somehow in a process of apostasy?
I am still in the Church, Droopy.
Sorry to disappoint you . . .
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
Droopy wrote:Is it not interesting, consig, how many of us at the MADboard saw you moving rapidly out of the Church a long time ago, and said so? And is it not interesting how you bristled at the notion that you were somehow in a process of apostasy?
I am still in the Church, Droopy.
Sorry to disappoint you . . .
That's not what I meant, consig.
So is harmony. So is Loyd Ericson, for the time being as well.
I wasn't referring to the appearance of one's name on the membership rolls.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
A man that demeans his wife in secret has a problem. There is nothing fictional about it. A person that doesn't believe what Mr. Smith Jr. claimed is pretty damn minor in comparison.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Droopy wrote:This is irony of epic proportions. I mean, Robert E. Howard proportions.
"irony"...yet another word you (and your limited intellect) don't seem to understand....Thanks for the lulz!....
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
I pretty much agree with EA (aside from that last part that came from left field, but oh well).
I just wanted to add and clarify. I said before that apathy seems to be part of it and that many LDS jstu don't think the details are all that relevant. I think that plays a part in it too. How many LDS would rather ignore criticisms because they just aren't relevant to them, as they think they hold what's right already? Details schmetails seems to be the order of the day, if you ask me.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Droopy wrote:This is irony of epic proportions. I mean, Robert E. Howard proportions.
"irony"...yet another word you (and your limited intellect) don't seem to understand....Thanks for the lulz!....
Yes, uh...I find it ironic that you would claim for Mr. Graham characteristics so obviously lacking from his limited behavioral repertoire.
If you just want to be a jackass, you are, indeed, in the right place.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
I think my analogy was on point. People are apathetic about their politics in a way that similar to how they are apathetic about their religion. Someone pointed out all the time an effort people put into their religion, which superficially contradicts the idea they are apathetic. So what came to mind is people who seem to spend inordinate amounts of time on their love of the constitution while not engaging in it in a systematic way as evidenced by their total unfamiliarity with it. It's apathy that drives that too. It's just that what is "lazy" is going with culturally spoon-fed answers, seeking to flatter one's preconceptions, and so on.
I think my analogy was on point. People are apathetic about their politics in a way that similar to how they are apathetic about their religion. Someone pointed out all the time an effort people put into their religion, which superficially contradicts the idea they are apathetic. So what came to mind is people who seem to spend inordinate amounts of time on their love of the constitution while not engaging in it in a systematic way as evidenced by their total unfamiliarity with it. It's apathy that drives that too. It's just that what is "lazy" is going with culturally spoon-fed answers, seeking to flatter one's preconceptions, and so on.
After further consideration you have a point. +1
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Why am I having such a difficult time with your point? I'm looking at my past life and the lives of those around me and just can't see it. Religion is so vastly important to believers that I see it as impossible to be apathetic about it. What stopped me from looking at the hairy details? First, I thought I was already being thorough in my research! I thought I was systematically studying the issues. I read the Book of Mormon every day, participated in discussions during SS and EQ, and took seminary and institute classes. I thought this is the right way to learn everything.
I considered critical publications to be filthy and vile. It had nothing to do with apathy. I cared about my belief (testimony). It was my baby. I took care of it, dug about it, and nurtured it. I was wary of anything critical for it is filled with Satan's breath and vomit. This is what I was taught, EA. I was taught to fear the critical side.
Do you think I suddenly awoke from a fog of apathy in order to change my beliefs?
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)