zeezrom wrote:Watch out everyone! Here comes Zee to the Big M thread!
If my kids ever end up going to church and meeting with older men behind closed doors to discuss personal activities (a remote possibility), they will be informed on how to present themselves. I will make sure of it.
I am in the slow process of teaching my children that these men (bishops and counselors) are not to be trusted any more than a guy down the street. These men believe in silly notions and superstitions and should be treated as such. They should never be taken seriously. They are not the same as their school teacher, who should be respected. If this man attempts to pry into my child's personal activities, I hope they will react with knowledge and poise. After the bishop makes such an attempt, I will visit him and inform him that he has started a war with the Zee clan. I will then begin to unleash my anti Mormon crusade on all his flock.
Funny how I use to look at these men as ones I respected and I would look up to them. Now I look at a lot of them as complete morons and I don't have much respect for most of them anymore. Who were they to ask a 12 year old boy if they masturbated.
The stake president in my area is a well respected brain surgeon. I think he is a tool and he likes the power that comes with being a stake president. Very manipulative guy as well.
Rambo wrote:Funny how I use to look at these men as ones I respected and I would look up to them. Now I look at a lot of them as complete morons and I don't have much respect for most of them anymore. Who were they to ask a 12 year old boy if they masturbated.
The stake president in my area is a well respected brain surgeon. I think he is a tool and he likes the power that comes with being a stake president. Very manipulative guy as well.
All of my recent bishops and SPs have been very nice men. But no man has any business asking kids about that.
Wouldn't it be nice if the church redirected all that energy from fighting masturbation and porn to fighting sexual and other physical abuse?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Rambo wrote:Funny how I use to look at these men as ones I respected and I would look up to them. Now I look at a lot of them as complete morons and I don't have much respect for most of them anymore. Who were they to ask a 12 year old boy if they masturbated.
The stake president in my area is a well respected brain surgeon. I think he is a tool and he likes the power that comes with being a stake president. Very manipulative guy as well.
All of my recent bishops and SPs have been very nice men. But no man has any business asking kids about that.
Wouldn't it be nice if the church redirected all that energy from fighting masturbation and porn to fighting sexual and other physical abuse?
The Church has, actually started doing more focusing on the fight against sexual and physical abuse. Bishops are now instructed to report any type of sexual or physical abuse reported to them to local authorities.
In our area, our Stake has also piloted an addiction workshop that is very similar to how AA is run. There is a 12 step program. My father-in-law was teaching the class before his call as Temple President, and it was quite successful.
Some Schmo wrote:I'm going to regret reading this thread (well, as much of it as I did). The image of why me down on his hands and knees on the bathroom floor looking for wayward droplets so he doesn't get caught will be etched in my imagination all day.
Bastard.
Glad that I gave you something to think about. Many parents do not consider the implications of a free for all masturbation policy with their boys. Not fun to see sperm drops on the floor or on the sheets. What should a parent say to their son, Joey?
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Some Schmo wrote:I'm going to regret reading this thread (well, as much of it as I did). The image of why me down on his hands and knees on the bathroom floor looking for wayward droplets so he doesn't get caught will be etched in my imagination all day.
Bastard.
Glad that I gave you something to think about. Many parents do not consider the implications of a free for all masturbation policy with their boys. Not fun to see sperm drops on the floor or on the sheets. What should a parent say to their son, Joey?
Who said anything about a "free-for-all" masturbation policy, Why Me? You sound like if a parent simply acknowledges that masturbation is not something to be condemned, or feel shame about, that the teen is going to be randomly masturbating everywhere, and completely unconscious of hygiene.
As Chap pointed out in his post, why would the act of masturbation automatically cause someone to be inconsiderate?
The fact that your mission partner left "sperm drops" on the bathroom floor has more to do with him being a slob, and not cleaning up after himself, in general.
I find it very creepy that you are so obsessed with "sperm drops", in general.
liz3564 wrote: Who said anything about a "free-for-all" masturbation policy, Why Me? You sound like if a parent simply acknowledges that masturbation is not something to be condemned, or feel shame about, that the teen is going to be randomly masturbating everywhere, and completely unconscious of hygiene.
As Chap pointed out in his post, why would the act of masturbation automatically cause someone to be inconsiderate?
The fact that your mission partner left "sperm drops" on the bathroom floor has more to do with him being a slob, and not cleaning up after himself, in general.
I find it very creepy that you are so obsessed with "sperm drops", in general.
Schmo mentioned it again. I needed to respond to it. Let me clue you in on boys. Once they start, they will find it difficult to stop. Thus, many parents have said that they would put a brake on it if it is occuring too often.
It wasn't my missionary partner but my friend's missionary partner. And my friend will never forget it not that he is traumatized by it...but it always makes a good missimonary story.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote:It wasn't my missionary partner but my friend's missionary partner. And my friend will never forget it not that he is traumatized by it...but it always makes a good missimonary story.
You know growing up in a large household I've mopped bathroom floors both with a mop and a rag, and I've stripped a bed of it's sheets for washing and you know what, I've never actually taken a close look at the floor or the sheets. Nope I've just cleaned what's in front of me, I think anyone who finds "sperm drops" was making the proof fit their own filthy imagination.
Chap wrote: Exactly. Why is it assumed that a teenage boy who masturbates will suddenly become an inconsiderate oaf? If he has no scruples about leaving his bodily products lying around in the bathroom for others to find, then his parents have simply not brought him up very well, and that will be a problem they are already familiar with, and ought to have dealt with already. .
Well, chap, are you a guy? Now if so, you will know the drip factor can be a problem after masturbation. A teenage boy may be able to get every wet drop that may fall from his ding dong but then again, maybe not. What I am trying t say is: parents just can't say do it because really there is nothing wrong with it. They also need to have a conversation about possible mess. It doesn't need to be serious talk. Just a flippant sentence by the dad: Now if you do do it, make sure you clean up after yourself...cause I am not cleaning up after you...
Said in a cheerful father/son way should take care of it and save embarrassment. I am glad that you think that teenage boys are always cleaning up their rooms but...many do not.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
3sheets2thewind wrote: That Why me can be candid and frank about a otherwise taboo subject show me his high level of maturity on the subject.
I even shared a true story of a friend of mine who had a missionary companion who would masturbate on his mission and my friend went into the bathroom and notice a couple white spots on the floor. And that was my point. I am sure that the missionary was not a slob but he never thought about the drip problem or for some reason didn't noticed it that time.
But imagine being my friend? Not a good situation to be in. So, I am trying to let parents know that they should have this conversation with their son but I am being called creepy for doing so. I think that finding the spots on the floor would be creepy, especially for the big sister who knows the ropes. Not to mention the emabarrassment of the son.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
café crema wrote: You know growing up in a large household I've mopped bathroom floors both with a mop and a rag, and I've stripped a bed of it's sheets for washing and you know what, I've never actually taken a close look at the floor or the sheets. Nope I've just cleaned what's in front of me, I think anyone who finds "sperm drops" was making the proof fit their own filthy imagination.
I'll let my friend know that he has a filthy imagination when he found the drops. I am sure that he will appreciate it.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith