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ludwigm wrote:as far as I know, Nemesis is female.

> Library > Religion & Spirituality > World Mythology (European mythology)
A Greek goddess unsuccessfully pursued by Zeus. But most of her actions are simply connected with retribution, the ‘unescapable’ punishment of human presumption.

retribution (rĕt'rə-byū'shən) pronunciation
n.
1. Something justly deserved; recompense.
2. Something given or demanded in repayment, especially punishment.
3. Theology. Punishment or reward distributed in a future life based on performance in this one.

It seems to be a correct name, if she is a she.

If he is a he, then he must be another uneducated farmboy.
There are many of them in Mormonism.


Nemesis is DanG, whom I assume is male.

And he engaged in more nearly incoherent ranting last night, which includes this:

Wonder why they attach so much hate on one women who started with an idea and her legacy hasn't been able to die since she left it behind.


What is her idea and legacy? Is he referring to the board itself?

Yes, yes, why criticize a woman whose idea was to start the mirror image of UTLM, after LDS left UTLM because it was so unfairly moderated? For heaven's sake, only a bunch of women-haters would find anything to criticize in that.

LOL


Nemesis, I for one LOVE, and I mean LOVE the Neighborhood Watch, and enjoy every post you make on it. Every single one. Keep them coming. Please!

For one thing, I enjoy your egregious lies, like asserting that posters on MD and Shades "endorsed" the attacks on Juliann. But for the other, I enjoy trying to figure out what in the heck you're trying to say in the first place. It's like a little puzzle.

I will say that it's unfortunate that you refuse to not use Shade's real-life name, but that you continue to repeatedly due so reveals a lot about your character. And that, my dear Nemesis, is why I love neighborhood watch. You've controlled your board to the point where critics are, by and large, silenced, but you can't control the entire Internet - like this board. And that is what is driving you crazy. At some point do you wonder why defending the truth depends on silencing critics? Naw, probably not. Your style of writing does not reveal a great intellect, so your imagination probably does not allow such musings.
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Simon Belmont wrote:"Remove the neighborhood watch or I'll say mean things about Juliann on my blog."

Sounds like a threat to me.


"Stop attacking mopologists or we'll keep posting on the Neighborhood Watch."
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Simon Belmont wrote:"Remove the neighborhood watch or I'll say mean things about Juliann on my blog."

Sounds like a threat to me.


Simon... the truth is not a "mean" thing.
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I posted this on the "Nemesis stands up to Scratch" thread, but it's probably worth repeating here:


liz3564 wrote:I don't think that Scratch should add Juliann to his blog. It has nothing to do with Dan G's silly threats. Dan G is making a complete idiot of himself; he's doing a great job of hanging himself, so why not just keep extending the rope?

The reason I don't think that Scratch should add Juliann to his blog is for one simple reason....Juliann asked him not to. It's the same reason that I disagreed with Tim Tribe's entry.

And, Scratch, before you get into semantics about Juliann not asking you specifically about an entry in your current blog, save it. You know it is the same thing.

You're classier than that, Scratch. Don't stoop to Dan G's level.

I think that Juliann's post on MDD was sincere. If she is willing to apologize for past mistakes, I'm willing to accept her at her word, offer my apologies for my brash comments at times that may have hurt her feelings, and move on.

Dan G has simply become power-hungry and has an inflated ego regarding his administrative status with the board. I would strongly suggest to Juliann that she consider taking back more of the reins, so to speak. I know that she has been dependent on Dan G's computer knowledge, but there are other folks out there who, I'm sure, would be more than happy to help her maintain the board.

Just my two cents on the matter.



Oh, and put me down for a T-Shirt....XL, so I can sleep in it. LOL

Hey, I wonder if we could get Blixa to design a T-Shirt for real, and add it to her website so we could order one in real life!
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liz3564 wrote:The reason I don't think that Scratch should add Juliann to his blog is for one simple reason....Juliann asked him not to. It's the same reason that I disagreed with Tim Tribe's entry.


Juliann asked him not to? When? Where? Did she say "please"? Is her permission imperative or even important?

I think she should be included in any documentation of LDS apologetics, especially the online apologetics. To not document her involvment in the Murphy transcript fiasco, the formation of the FAIR board, the further demise of LDS apologetics on the ensuing MAD and now MDD boards would be to leave an important piece of the great historical significance out. Kinda like the church does.
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harmony wrote:
liz3564 wrote:The reason I don't think that Scratch should add Juliann to his blog is for one simple reason....Juliann asked him not to. It's the same reason that I disagreed with Tim Tribe's entry.


Juliann asked him not to? When? Where? Did she say "please"? Is her permission imperative or even important?

I think she should be included in any documentation of LDS apologetics, especially the online apologetics. To not document her involvment in the Murphy transcript fiasco, the formation of the FAIR board, the further demise of LDS apologetics on the ensuing MAD and now MDD boards would be to leave an important piece of the great historical significance out. Kinda like the church does.

I understand your point, Harmony. I really do. But the fact still remains that, years ago, when Scratch posted his original spotlight on Mopologist blog, Pahoran and Juliann both asked that he remove their entries. Scratch obliged. In my mind, this is the same deal.

Now, I do see your point about the history of Mopologetics and Juliann's involvement. I think that the classy thing to do would be for Scratch to ASK Juliann if he can publish a blurb on her in his blog.

Look, I'm the first to admit that I am not a huge Juliann fan. She really hurt my feelings with the whole FAIR Mod fiasco that happened years ago. But, frankly, Dan G had as much play in that as she did, maybe even moreso, since HE was the one who looked at my PM's, and actually banned me mid-PM to him.

I would just really like to see everyone move on.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:So I'll give you 48 hours to let me know how you feel about all of this. If you want to delete your entire "Neighborhood Watch" forum as a positive "bridge-building" gesture, then that's cool. If not, I'll take it as a sign that you agree that Sister Juliann belongs in the pantheon of Mopologists that make up the Encyclopedia.

Imho, I don't think you should add Juliann to the Encyclopedia. It appears she is no longer active in the Mopologia sphere; plus, after the meme ruckus, including her would seem to be more out of spite than anything else. Don't get me wrong -- I'm no fan of Juliann and we have had plenty of battles in years past, but she should not be targeted simply because of the actions/words of Nemesis, et al. Just my $.02.
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Is being included on Scratch's blog considered a slap or a badge of honor, to those involved in LDS apologetics?
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liz3564 wrote:I understand your point, Harmony. I really do. But the fact still remains that, years ago, when Scratch posted his original spotlight on Mopologist blog, Pahoran and Juliann both asked that he remove their entries.


Actually, that's not correct. The Dude contacted me via PM and suggested that I delete their well-known last names, and I made the edits purely on the basis of his suggestion. As far as I can remember, neither of them ever said a word to me about it.


Now, I do see your point about the history of Mopologetics and Juliann's involvement. I think that the classy thing to do would be for Scratch to ASK Juliann if he can publish a blurb on her in his blog.


Very well: consider her "asked."

As I indicated above, I'm still somewhat on the fence about the whole thing... Liz & Rollo seem against it, Dan_G and Harmony seem in favor of it... Hmmm. Such a tough decision!
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harmony wrote:Is being included on Scratch's blog considered a slap or a badge of honor, to those involved in LDS apologetics?


It probably depends on the individual apologists' point of view. Some view it as a slap, others a badge of honor.

Who knows? Maybe Juliann wouldn't even care if Scratch included her. That's why I think it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to ask.

I know that Tim specifically wanted his write-up on Scratch's blog removed because he was afraid of ramifications from his job.

That's the thing we have to remember. We shouldn't be doing things that are going to hurt people in real life.
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