Here is a brief confrontation I had in the past with Wade and Pahoran:
Wade Englund wrote:
Moksha, on Apr 4 2005, 09:29 PM, said:
So as you can see, (using Pahoran's words) I am now sanctimoniously self-righteous, arrogantly presumptuous, an established Mormon-basher, and a race-baiting stirrer for saying an Apostle of Color would benefit the LDS Church.
And yet, I don't feel that way when I go to Church on Sunday.
If all you had done was to simply suggest that an Apostle of color would benefit the Church, then you wouldn't have envoked the perceptions expressed about you by Pahoran and shared by me and others. You know this.
But, apparently, there is something preventing you from earnestly and honestly taking a look at yourself and your actions--preventing you from seeing that the very things you loath in others (some times mistakenly so), is pronounced in yourself. Being critical of others, and looking at them through the magnifying glass of disdain, keeps you from having to examine yourself in the mirror of self-analysis. It keeps you from seeing the things you really do not want to see about yourself, but are unwittingly exposing to the world.
I believe that I may be of some help with that issue (denial and/or projection), and in a way that will be safe and loving. If you would like to join me on the "Healing Pain and Sorrow" thread, I will be pleased to do whatever I can.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Wade forgave me and even offered me some free therapy. I in turn appreciated Wade from that day forward.
Liking people despite their differences seems much better than having animosity toward them.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Dr. Shades wrote:Um, why are you dialoguing with yourself?
I suspect because this thread is neither a blatant attack on a person or a set of religious beliefs, nor is it some pithy claim or rebuttal by an angry apologist.
Dr. Shades wrote:Um, why are you dialoguing with yourself?
I suspect because this thread is neither a blatant attack on a person or a set of religious beliefs, nor is it some pithy claim or rebuttal by an angry apologist.
You're a better person than I. Wade really boils my broccoli when he talks like that. What in the world could you have said that required forgiveness? It's really hard for me to imagine Moksha expressing "loathing" for anyone.
The person who is certain and who claims divine warrant for his certainty belongs now to the infancy of our species. Christopher Hitchens
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. Frater