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_Jersey Girl
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Simon Belmont wrote:Hey Rich:

"One thing is clear:

Much of what came forth from Smith’s mouth could be construed as putting words in the mouth of a witness, and/or, helping the witness tell a pre-planned story. "

Gee... that's not a slanted article at all.

The jig is up, Rich. You've been exposed for the anti-Mormon, anti-JW, and anti-SDA that you are.

WWJD?


Unfortunately, due to a solid case of insomnia, I had occasion to read this thread last night.

Belmont, tell me what YOU think Jesus would do?
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Jersey Girl wrote:Unfortunately, due to a solid case of insomnia, I had occasion to read this thread last night.

Belmont, tell me what YOU think Jesus would do?


Attempt to rid the world of evil, as I am doing.
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Unfortunately, due to a solid case of insomnia, I had occasion to read this thread last night.

Belmont, tell me what YOU think Jesus would do?


Attempt to rid the world of evil, as I am doing.


Didn't Jesus criticize some of the religious traditions of his day?
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Morley wrote:
Didn't Jesus criticize some of the religious traditions of his day?


Yup, and I am criticizing the tradition of anti-Mormonism of our day.
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Morley wrote:
Didn't Jesus criticize some of the religious traditions of his day?


Yup, and I am criticizing the tradition of anti-Mormonism of our day.


Um, then it's okay to criticize the LDS Church and its teachings, right?
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Unfortunately, due to a solid case of insomnia, I had occasion to read this thread last night.

Belmont, tell me what YOU think Jesus would do?


Attempt to rid the world of evil, as I am doing.


Please identify the particular evil that you are challenging with this thread?
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Unfortunately, due to a solid case of insomnia, I had occasion to read this thread last night.

Belmont, tell me what YOU think Jesus would do?


Attempt to rid the world of evil, as I am doing.


Please identify the particular evil that you are challenging with this thread?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
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Simon Belmont wrote:By the way, thews, I've answered your "question" before: WILLIAM CLAYTON

No, you have not answered my question and continue to waffle on your "answer" as you respond without answering the question asked. I asked you who said the words regarding the Kinderhook translation regarding the descendant of Ham as written down by William Clayton. It was his journal, so it's obvious who wrote the words down. He was with Joseph Smith that day as noted in his journal.

You said..
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17070&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=Kinderhook&start=336
Simon Belmont wrote:No one that I know of claims that Joseph successfully translated any portion of the Kinderhook plates. I am perfectly fine with accepting that he attempted, in good faith, thinking his gift applied to all encounters with supposed artifacts.


So we don't derail this thread, I've started a new one if you care to actually answer the question asked and acknowledge the above.

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Rich,

It's nice to see an Apologist who is answerable to his Elders.
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MrStakhanovite wrote:Rich,

It's nice to see an Apologist who is answerable to his Elders.

I read a post from a Christian father who joined a message board telling a story along these lines: “I raised my daughter as a Christian and she went to Church with me her whole life. Now she is 18 and has fallen in love with a young Mormon man. She just announced that she is going to marry him and I have just learned that her mother and I will not be allowed at the wedding. Please help.”

My thoughts are always, “Perhaps if you and your daughter had looked into Mormonism before she got engaged to this man, she may have made a more informed decision?”

Before I buy something from Amazon.com I read all of the reviews, both pro and con. If people would do the same type of comparison when it comes to their faith, at least they would have a ‘heads up’ about what they were buying.

For this dad it was too late. His daughter ended up shunning him. And, I’m not judging if shunning was the right or wrong thing to do. My point is: If dad would have looked into the LDS faith before this point in his life, at least he would have known what to expect. The answer, according to the daughter, is for dad and mom to convert to Mormonism. Problem solved!

The good news is: If the father and mother do become Mormons now, not only will they be redeemed in the eyes of their daughter, they will finally learn something about Mormonism!

Going to a church where teachings about contending faiths are not allowed, leaves the congregation wide-open to recieve messages from the Elders on the street, or, at the door.
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