What is the point of sealing?

[_Doctor Scratch]

What if she's personally invested in it to the point that she wants to help change it?

Change to what? The Community of Christ? I think they've made it clear, whether anyone likes it or not, they're not going down that path.

Maybe harmony should join the CoC?

Do you really and sincerely think that Mormonism is something that one simply "changes" in the way you're describing?

[_RayAgostini]

Do you really and sincerely think that Mormonism is something that one simply "changes" in the way you're describing?

I know you want to change it, like harmony. I know you "love the Church". You love it so, so much, even though you only believe about one-tenth (being generous) of what you accept about it.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Do you really and sincerely think that Mormonism is something that one simply "changes" in the way you're describing?

I know you want to change it, like harmony. I know you "love the Church". You love it so, so much, even though you only believe about one-tenth (being generous) of what you accept about it.

My point, Ray, is that Mormonism is more than the religion/theology, just like Harold Bloom said.

[_RayAgostini]

My point, Ray, is that Mormonism is more than the religion/theology, just like Harold Bloom said.

Oh, I'm well aware of that. Joseph's "uncanny daemon" and all that, and how he could "dig up" ancient texts consistent with Jewish beliefs and tradition (also commented on by Jacob Neusner).

[_Doctor Scratch]

My point, Ray, is that Mormonism is more than the religion/theology, just like Harold Bloom said.

Oh, I'm well aware of that. Joseph's "uncanny daemon" and all that, and how he could "dig up" ancient texts consistent with Jewish beliefs and tradition (also commented on by Jacob Neusner).

Huh? I was talking more about his remark that Mormonism is both a religion and an ethnicity/identity. I.e., that it is a religion that became "a people."

I guess the pertinent question is: Is Mormonism defined principally by its beliefs, or by its people? The apologists are glad to remind us that the Church has no "systematic theology," so my inclination is to think that the latter is more correct.

[_RayAgostini]

Huh? I was talking more about his remark that Mormonism is both a religion and an ethnicity/identity. I.e., that it is a religion that became "a people."

I guess the pertinent question is: Is Mormonism defined principally by its beliefs, or by its people? The apologists are glad to remind us that the Church has no "systematic theology," so my inclination is to think that the latter is more correct.

I still feel a strong attachment to "Mormonism", yet I'm not a Mormon. Call me a "cultural" or "DNA Mormon", if you will, but I have no intention of "changing" the Church. I'm prepared to listen, to observe, and to try to understand the "TBMs". I don't want Mormonism to "change" to suit me, but perhaps to offer reasons why I should rethink my own position. I do acknowledge that once Mormonism becomes "cultural"; "socially acceptable"; au fait with "liberals" and The World Council of Churches, et al, then it is no longer a "prophetic" religion, distancing itself from the "norms" of society. Prophets are "up-setters" who make all of us feel uncomfortable with our current "secular orthodoxies", and that is how it should be.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Who is the "prophet" of the LDS Church according to your views, Ray? Is it actually an active, TBM Mormon? Or is it a critic or an "anti-Mormon"?

[_jon]

Sealing makes more sense once you connect:
A. the emotional attractiveness of being sealed together for most Mormon families.
B. the ticket price
And
C. Where the money goes

It's a great money spinner...

[_RayAgostini]

Who is the "prophet" of the LDS Church according to your views, Ray? Is it actually an active, TBM Mormon? Or is it a critic or an "anti-Mormon"?

The present Prophet is Thomas Spencer Monson. Let me enlighten you: Thomas S. Monson.

Now continue on with your derogatory comments about everything Mormon, the Church that you "love".

[_Doctor Scratch]

Who is the "prophet" of the LDS Church according to your views, Ray? Is it actually an active, TBM Mormon? Or is it a critic or an "anti-Mormon"?

The present Prophet is Thomas Spencer Monson. Let me enlighten you: Thomas S. Monson.

Now continue on with your derogatory comments about everything Mormon, the Church that you "love".

I didn't mean to be offensive or aggressive or anything. I asked that mainly in response to your comment about Mormonism being a "prophetic" movement. Know what I mean? Who, in these latter days, is dispensing the "prophetic" ideas? Is it really T. S. Monson, in your view?