Maybe so but that has been my experience. Jeff Ricks many years ago predicted that I would be banned from FAIR. He was wrong. I got along with the people there quite well. No one on that board ever condemned me but intolerant postmos and exmos have condemned me on ex or postmo boards. I think the question that they need to ask themselves is: why am I so threatening to them that they need to mock or bash me. Or attempt to question my Mormonism and lifestyle beliefs.
Have you been banned from here? No? Then what does this have to do with anything?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
why me wrote:Fortunately I know many Mormons who were/are not like them as members. They are kind, understanding and considerate of my inactivity and attendance in the catholic church. No problem
Having no activity in either Church may actually be helpful since you will never run into any countervailing real life experience which may alter your positions.
I think why me has been fairly candid on this topic. He has said (why me correct me if I am wrong) that he believes in Mormonism, admires it and is happy for his family to be active Mormon's. But at the same time he admits it is too hard/difficult for him personally to live it or be an active member.
I do think this jeopardises his credibility in defending principles and practices that he doesn't believe in strongly enough to live. Kind of an 'armchair supporter'.
I also think that if you (why me) do actually believe Mormonism is true because the Holy Ghost has testified it to you, then you must also believe that denying it (by not living it) may be the cause of one or two awkward Mormony type questions when you try and give the secret handshakes at the pearly gates to get to live with your family...
'Church pictures are not always accurate' (The Nehor May 4th 2011)
Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.
Inconceivable wrote:It's illogical to take someone serious that hasn't the desire or commitment to practice what he preaches.
And yet many of the witnesses to the Book of Mormon found themselves in the same boat. People are only human and as humans we are very complicated indeed. If we take a look at the witnesses, we see people who definitely had an experience and yet, left the fold. Some went on to other churches. But they never denied what they saw with eyes or felt with their hands. Such is the human being. Andeven john whitmer who once rode with antimormons defended his experience when he was riding with them. How to explain it?
The problem with this board is that many critics are guilty of seeing things black and white, something that they must have been as taliban members. They condemn and judge and take a position that if one defends the faith, they must be active and do the walk. No so. There are many people out there who do not attend church and yet, would most likely defend it.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
jon wrote:I think why me has been fairly candid on this topic. He has said (why me correct me if I am wrong) that he believes in Mormonism, admires it and is happy for his family to be active Mormon's. But at the same time he admits it is too hard/difficult for him personally to live it or be an active member.
I do think this jeopardises his credibility in defending principles and practices that he doesn't believe in strongly enough to live. Kind of an 'armchair supporter'.
I also think that if you (why me) do actually believe Mormonism is true because the Holy Ghost has testified it to you, then you must also believe that denying it (by not living it) may be the cause of one or two awkward Mormony type questions when you try and give the secret handshakes at the pearly gates to get to live with your family...
I don't remember the symbolism of the handshake at all. To deny the holy ghost means that one denies him. In my case I choose a terestial life, plain and simple. But I don't deny that powerful witness. I have chosen to live a terestial life since the age of 21 or 22. And so, I don't think that I will need to know the handshake.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
moksha wrote:Having no activity in either Church may actually be helpful since you will never run into any countervailing real life experience which may alter your positions.
I find good people in both faiths. I am not that concerned with doctrine per se. But since catholicism is the religion of my childhood, I go there. It makes sense. I have met great nuns and great priests, something that would not have happened if I had closed my mind. And I have met good people.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote:I don't remember the symbolism of the handshake at all. To deny the holy ghost means that one denies him. In my case I choose a terestial life, plain and simple. But I don't deny that powerful witness. I have chosen to live a terestial life since the age of 21 or 22. And so, I don't think that I will need to know the handshake.
Oh yes, the light cotton years, growing up in New York, all innocent fun, no guilt, no one got hurt. Those were the times, oh the memories, if only I could recapture that first time feeling again. No black and white just all grey. Maybe I can find it in the Telestial kingdom.
a.k.a. Pokatatorjoined Oct 26, 2006 and permanently banned from MAD Nov 6, 2006
"Stop being such a damned coward and use your real name to own your position."
"That's what he gets for posting in his own name."
2 different threads same day 2 hours apart Yohoo Bat 12/1/2015
Thank you ldstoronto for getting me to think why I remain a Mormon.
yw. Just a reminder though; pay your tithing diligently. After selling your services to earn that paycheck, write that check every month. I don't see a better punisment than this
"As I say, it never ceases to amaze me how gullible some of our Church members are" Harold B. Lee, "Admonitions for the Priesthood of God", Ensign, Jan 1973