why me wrote:jon wrote:This wouldn't be Why Me writing faith promotion fiction would it...?
A reference...?
A link...?
A date, time and place...?
Bump for CFR because Why Me failed to respond to harmony's CFR
Can't do it. Not because I can't but because I have my reasons not to.
I am personally convinced that the War Between the States was the Lord's punishment for the murder of Joseph and Hyrum, much like the Roman destruction of Jerusalem was for the murder of Jesus. But that's grist for another mill.
gramps wrote:On Pa Pa's Civil War thread, LeSellers wrote:I am personally convinced that the War Between the States was the Lord's punishment for the murder of Joseph and Hyrum, much like the Roman destruction of Jerusalem was for the murder of Jesus. But that's grist for another mill.
There is some good, solid history for you. ;)
gramps wrote:LeSellers wrote:I am personally convinced that the War Between the States was the Lord's punishment for the murder of Joseph and Hyrum, much like the Roman destruction of Jerusalem was for the murder of Jesus. But that's grist for another mill.
There is some good, solid history for you. ;)
MsJack wrote: Sure, when misfortune befalls others, it's indicative of God's punishment for their sins, but when misfortune befalls Mormons, it seldom seems to be on the table that Mormons may have gotten something deeply and seriously wrong.
consiglieri wrote:
Good points, to be sure.
On the other hand, the driving of the Mormons from Missouri is usually viewed by LDS as the wrath of God upon the Mormons for failing to live the law of consecration.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
If some transexuals and even transvestites slip through the cracks, I don't care. The important thing in the law is the principle. Anything else is just background noise and nitpicking.
Science is all about massaging. Science constantly changes and massages itself for the perceived reality of its adherents, other scientists. Science is not, nor ever has been a bedrock of principles that never changed, in fact they constantly change. And yet, people will tell us that science is the way, but science isn't the way, anymore than those crazy cloverleaf on and off ramps here in California are "the way". So if science is so confused, why do we hold it up as the ancient touchstone to verify the gold of other things? I ask this because I recall placing another question in regard to plate tectonics. Tecttonics was not the original harbringer of a belief that the continents were all one mass, many people thought so or rather knew so for hundreds of years before the theory of plate tectonics, that the continents were one. The how and the why are what plate tectonics rest upon. But until that very sound scientific theory became accepted, it was not a sound scientific theory. Science changes, constantly, it shifts, it is "massaged". Should it be the standard by which we judge all things? I see it as too chancy.
Spurven Ten Sing wrote:Hee...Science is all about massaging. Science constantly changes and massages itself for the perceived reality of its adherents, other scientists. Science is not, nor ever has been a bedrock of principles that never changed, in fact they constantly change. And yet, people will tell us that science is the way, but science isn't the way, anymore than those crazy cloverleaf on and off ramps here in California are "the way". So if science is so confused, why do we hold it up as the ancient touchstone to verify the gold of other things? I ask this because I recall placing another question in regard to plate tectonics. Tecttonics was not the original harbringer of a belief that the continents were all one mass, many people thought so or rather knew so for hundreds of years before the theory of plate tectonics, that the continents were one. The how and the why are what plate tectonics rest upon. But until that very sound scientific theory became accepted, it was not a sound scientific theory. Science changes, constantly, it shifts, it is "massaged". Should it be the standard by which we judge all things? I see it as too chancy.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
bcspace wrote:
The Gospel itself is quite conservative with no room whatsoever for left-wing philosophy.