Did FARMS/MI ever give a critical review of Bushman's RSR?

[_Yoda]

I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish by attempting to latch yourself onto other people's credentials and positions.

??? That's not what Dan was doing.

His point was two-fold:

I've published more about Mormon history than he had. (He had published precisely nothing.) I'm more involved with professional historians of Mormonism than he was.

Point 1. Dan had published more historical works. That was his entire point here.

Leonard Arrington, the founder of "the new Mormon history" and the founding president of the Mormon History Association and for ten years the official Church Historian, was a professor of economics. Davis Bitton (a former Assistant Church Historian) and Stan Kimball, two subsequent presidents of the MHA and themselves prolific historians of Mormonism, held appointments as professors of European history.

Point 2. Arrington, Bitton, and Kimball are all established historians, even though their primary are of study might have been in other areas, as is Dan's.

[_Buffalo]

"I'm more involved with professional historians of Mormonism than he was."

[_Daniel Peterson]

My ride still hasn't come.

Why are you so emotional about this?

Why are you?

I'm not emotional at all.

I noticed on a separate thread that there seemed to be some allusion to a person close to you exiting the Church due to Palmer's book.

It's not true.

Is that the reason for your vendetta against this man?

What's the reason for your obsession with the Yankees? Was your father defective in some way, so that you have to look up to Derek Jeter as a substitute?

I have no vendetta against Grant Palmer.

People challenge me in posts about him, and I respond. That's it. I didn't bring him up. Buffalo did.

If you read the various relevant threads, I think you'll discover that I'm not the only person posting in them.

IWhatever the case, this is clearly one of those topics that sets you off.

You're delusional, Scratch. You've been delusional for at least half a decade now, and I'm guessing that it was a pre-existing condition.

[_harmony]

Da I noticed on a separate thread that there seemed to be some allusion to a person close to you exiting the Church due to Palmer's book.

Go back and reread it. That's not what he said.

[_Daniel Peterson]

"I'm more involved with professional historians of Mormonism than he was."

Which meant, of course, that I have more of a claim to be an "insider" within their circles than Grant Palmer did.

But I don't claim to be an "insider" with respect to the study of Mormon history, and I would never write a book about Mormon history bearing a title in which I pretended to be one.

[_Buffalo]

"I'm more involved with professional historians of Mormonism than he was."

Which meant, of course, that I have more of a claim to be an "insider" within their circles than Grant Palmer did.

But I don't claim to be an "insider" with respect to the study of Mormon history, and I would never write a book about Mormon history bearing a title in which I pretended to be one.

You must have a low opinion of the Church Educational System, where even rubbing with shoulders with church historians gives you a greater insight into church history than in being employed as a CES instructor/director.

[_Doctor Scratch]

My ride still hasn't come.

Why are you so emotional about this?

Why are you?

I'm not emotional at all.

That's not how it seems. Perhaps this is only my impression, but it seems like any time the topic of Grant Palmer comes up, your posting goes into over-drive, and it's often quite mean-spirited. There must be five or six threads going on right now that deal with Palmer, and you're a heavy participant in every single one of them. An overarching theme in your commentary is your attempts to discredit him, and to paint him as an amateur and as someone who is in some way deceptive. I'm kind of surprised that you haven't resurrected your gossipy story about how Louis Midgley's "sources" are certain that Palmer "lied" to his employer.

But, hey---maybe I'm wrong. Why don't you tell us what was good and valuable in Palmer's book? Which parts of it would you recommend to believing LDS who are unfamiliar with problematic issues in LDS history and doctrine?

[_Daniel Peterson]

You're being willfully obtuse, and I just heard the horn honking.

[_Simon Belmont]

That's not how it seems. Perhaps this is only my impression, but it seems like any time the topic of Grant Palmer comes up, your posting goes into over-drive,

That sounds all too familiar, like you when the subject of Dr. Quinn comes up.

[_Doctor Scratch]

That's not how it seems. Perhaps this is only my impression, but it seems like any time the topic of Grant Palmer comes up, your posting goes into over-drive,

That sounds all too familiar, like you when the subject of Dr. Quinn comes up.

Hi, Simon.

You know, I've been meaning to congratulate you on your recent graduation. Way to go, man.