when did monson start faking it?

[Guest]

do you think thomas s. monson made it all the way to prophet without knowing it was all b.s? or does he still belive it? might he owe it to the people of utah to ensure their 'disney land life'? i can see someone knowing its all b.s. and just kinda keeping it secret to help others. if he's doing that, its a noble life he is living because too much damage my be done in utah if he says he was fooled. if that's the case i'm sure he'll be in heaven if there is one. on the other hand if he's doing it for the power or because he thinks its funny that's a different issue.

you'd imagine one would have to make it to at least 70's and the 12 would know the prospect knows its all fake for before they determined his eligibility for advance to the 12. and that's if the entire twelve knows.


clearly holland knows its b.s.

i've met packer and i know he's full of crap 'personal story'

[_Polygamy-Porter]

With the seemingly continuous PR snafu that Hinckley was famous for, it is evident that he knew it was all BS.

Rather than proudly boasting that YES INDEEDY GOD TALKS TO ME THE PROPHET, what did he tell his Jewish Hometeacher, Brother King?

Or denying the King Follet discourse.

There is good reason he will be remembered as the "I'm not sure we teach that" president.

[_harmony]

do you think thomas s. monson made it all the way to prophet without knowing it was all b.s? or does he still belive it? might he owe it to the people of utah to ensure their 'disney land life'? i can see someone knowing its all b.s. and just kinda keeping it secret to help others. if he's doing that, its a noble life he is living because too damage my be done in utah if he say's he was fooled. if that's the case i'm sure he'll be in heaven if their is one. on the other hand if he's doing it for the power or because he thinks its funny that's a different issue.

you'd imagine one would have to make it to at least 70's and have the 12 know the guys knows its all fake for before they determined his eligibility for advance to the 12. and that's if the entire twelve knows.

What has Pres Monson done or said that makes you believe 1) he has that kind of sense of humor, or 2) he doesn't believe it?

clearly holland knows its b.s.

Why have you singled out Holland?

i've met packer and i know he's full of crap 'personal story'

Your experience appears to be the opposite of DCP's. According to him, Packer is the epitome of not-full-of-crap. Would you care to share your personal story?

[_lostindc]

do you think thomas s. monson made it all the way to prophet without knowing it was all b.s? or does he still belive it? might he owe it to the people of utah to ensure their 'disney land life'? i can see someone knowing its all b.s. and just kinda keeping it secret to help others. if he's doing that, its a noble life he is living because too damage my be done in utah if he say's he was fooled. if that's the case i'm sure he'll be in heaven if their is one. on the other hand if he's doing it for the power or because he thinks its funny that's a different issue.

you'd imagine one would have to make it to at least 70's and have the 12 know the guys knows its all fake for before they determined his eligibility for advance to the 12. and that's if the entire twelve knows.


clearly holland knows its b.s.

i've met packer and i know he's full of crap 'personal story'

You seem to have a lot of fantastic insider information. Kind of like an in-law who works in home building yet has his thumb on the all the inside information regarding military actions and political control.

[_Buffalo]

do you think thomas s. monson made it all the way to prophet without knowing it was all b.s? or does he still belive it? might he owe it to the people of utah to ensure their 'disney land life'? i can see someone knowing its all b.s. and just kinda keeping it secret to help others. if he's doing that, its a noble life he is living because too damage my be done in utah if he say's he was fooled. if that's the case i'm sure he'll be in heaven if their is one. on the other hand if he's doing it for the power or because he thinks its funny that's a different issue.

you'd imagine one would have to make it to at least 70's and have the 12 know the guys knows its all fake for before they determined his eligibility for advance to the 12. and that's if the entire twelve knows.


clearly holland knows its b.s.

i've met packer and i know he's full of crap 'personal story'

Regardless of whether or not they believe the founding myths, it's clear from the way they treat people like the Danzigs that many or all of them don't believe the stuff they spout every six months about compassion and humility.

[_Inconceivable]

do you think thomas s. monson made it all the way to prophet without knowing it was all b.s? or does he still belive it?

I honestly don't believe monson has personally done any miracles for years - if he's ever done any at all. Baking cookies for old widows as a bishop doesn't count.

What I do know is that, like all the other prophets, monson is a worshipped rockstar God by particularly those in third world countries. The sickening interviews of poor people that sacrifice nearly all just to catch a glimpse of the empty suit.. He knows but he is trapped by those that are taught to see him as more than a feeble old man. Perhaps he is encouraged by the fact that many of the great unwashed create miracles he never sees.

At least the Cardinals dress up their Pope, put him in an overstuffed gold chair and teach him to wave and bless properly in order to play the part.

Monson probably has good intentions. But I imagine he drops to his knees every night begging forgiveness from the Unknown God he fakes intimacy with. I remember the deer in headlights look he sported when he became the Man Who Would be King. Clearly, he's fearful the Mormon God may not go easy on him for the charade. Well.. not so much that he's still willing to authorize billions to buy those things that canker and rust while the poor of the world die from horrible hunger pains.

Yeah, let's cry a little tear for a few handcarters that died of exposure a hundred years ago and call it a day.

[_hatersinmyward]

do you think thomas s. monson made it all the way to prophet without knowing it was all b.s? or does he still belive it? might he owe it to the people of utah to ensure their 'disney land life'? i can see someone knowing its all b.s. and just kinda keeping it secret to help others. if he's doing that, its a noble life he is living because too damage my be done in utah if he say's he was fooled. if that's the case i'm sure he'll be in heaven if their is one. on the other hand if he's doing it for the power or because he thinks its funny that's a different issue.

you'd imagine one would have to make it to at least 70's and have the 12 know the guys knows its all fake for before they determined his eligibility for advance to the 12. and that's if the entire twelve knows.


clearly holland knows its b.s.

i've met packer and i know he's full of crap 'personal story'

You seem to have a lot of fantastic insider information. Kind of like an in-law who works in home building yet has his thumb on the all the inside information regarding military actions and political control.

1. what are you doing next thanksgiving lostindc?

2. packer knew who i was durring a 'special stake conference appearance' and probably thanked his lucky stars he didn't ask me all the right questions. so in the intimate setting where we all were, he just got up and b.s.'d durring his whole shpill. one of the LDS members placed a plastic knife under my chair then after a bishop rick member who was sitting off to the side told me i'm glad you saw the knife.

[_jon]

Who knows what they truly believe.

What we do know is that they preach love and charity but spend 25 times more money on commercial enterprises than they do on helping the poor and the needy - and you can be sure that they know that!

[_stemelbow]

This thread is turning into a MDB classic if you ask me. With this exception of this notice I'll try to just be a lurker here as this all unfolds. My note is, this is adorable.

[_Runtu]

I have no reason to believe that Monson and the rest of the higher-ups do not sincerely believe in the church and gospel. You would have to be really odd or really evil to spend that much time and effort on something you didn't believe.