Poll: Evolution

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Which statement is closest to your view of human origins?

 
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_beefcalf
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GR33N wrote:
beefcalf wrote:
Might I add Psalms 137?

9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Take babies. Smash them against rocks. Be happy.

Gotcha.

Nice book.


I suggest you do some research as to the meaning and intention of these verses. What context were they written? What was the circumstances surrounding them? I doing so you might gain some insight.


An excellent suggestion. One I took upon myself before I began discussing Psalms 137.

The context of this chapter (all nine verses) is that of the Israelites lamenting the Babylonian exile, and their loss of Jerusalem. The closing two verses have devolved from lamentation to a violent vengeful fantasy, telling the women of Babylon how happy the Israelites will be to take Babylonian babies and smash them on the rocks.

My point is simple: those who make the claim that the Bible can be considered a good source for civilized morality and ethics is very probably not familiar with the Bible.
eschew obfuscation

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_Malcolm
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I am for Evolution, but it feels more cosy to think that a Creator was in charge.
We shall not cease from exploration
and the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
and know the place for the first time.
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_Andy
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I believe God created man but that he did so millions of years ago
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_Tarski
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Andy wrote:I believe God created man but that he did so millions of years ago

I believe that man created God but that he did so thousands of years ago.
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Tarski wrote:I believe that man created God but that he did so thousands of years ago.


I believe man and God created each other simultaneously!
_Molok
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I believe I will have another drink.
_moksha
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Malcolm wrote:I am for Evolution, but it feels more cosy to think that a Creator was in charge.


All God needed to do was start the Big Bang (or whatever mechanism) in motion and then let the Universe sort itself out. Evolution could be seen as a resulting process from that spark.
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_cksalmon
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beefcalf wrote:Might I add Psalms 137?

9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Take babies. Smash them against rocks. Be happy.

Gotcha.

Nice book.


For some, it may salve the conscience to think of it as very late-term abortion.
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cksalmon wrote:
beefcalf wrote:Might I add Psalms 137?

9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Take babies. Smash them against rocks. Be happy.

Gotcha.

Nice book.


For some, it may salve the conscience to think of it as very late-term abortion.



You are taking that scripture out of context ..
Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
_cksalmon
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Andy wrote:You are taking that scripture out of context ..


In my experience, no one has ever read any biblical text out of its intended context in the service of rhetoric, Andy.
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