Can I get a straight answer to an honest question?

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_consiglieri
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Re: Can I get a straight answer to an honest question?

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zeezrom wrote:I would flip Him the bird and live in hell in peace knowing I did the right thing.


That would certainly be one way of handling the situation. ;^)


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Re: Can I get a straight answer to an honest question?

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zeezrom wrote:
consiglieri wrote:what would you do if you also sincerely believed that the kind of life God wanted you to live involved taking plural wives?
I would flip Him the bird and live in hell in peace knowing I did the right thing.


LOL Here's an idea. Why not send an angel with a flaming sword to both Joseph and Emma together. That way the angel doesn't have to make two trips. Also Emma actually will know that she will be in BIG trouble if she doesn't agree. So why didn't this happen for Emma? Because the story was made up so Joseph could try and convince some women to have sex with him. It's pretty damn obvious, and whats worse is that I think everyone who believes this story about Joseph would never believe it about any other religious leader outside of their own religion, yet some believers will want to believe so bad that they will give their own a special pass.
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Re: Can I get a straight answer to an honest question?

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bcspace wrote:
The problem with that line of reasoning is that there is absolutely no evidence in the Old Testament that polygamy was seen as religious in any way.


God's authorization in say, 2 Samuel 12:7-11, should put a religious stamp on it to anyone's pov.


By this reasoning Hitler was fully justified in committing genocide, too.

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Re: Can I get a straight answer to an honest question?

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"I'm proceeding from the assumption that God really did command Joseph Smith to practice polygamy. Under that assumption, it appears he perceived himself to be in a no-win situation."
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And 'raising a righteous seed'???

Why command it and then the leader doesn't even produce kids as one of the main excuses for it says?
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Re: Can I get a straight answer to an honest question?

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Was Joseph justified in "marrying" the Partridge sisters behind his wife’s back?

Let’s give Joseph Smith the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was sincerely abiding by the revelation that was eventually canonized as D&C 132. Was he justified?

According to D&C 132:61, when a man is already married and wants to espouse another, the following conditions must be met in order to be justified:

  • The first wife gives her consent
  • He must in fact “espouse” the second
  • The new wife must in fact be a virgin
  • The new wife can’t be vowed to another man

Not even D&C 132 justifies Joseph’s shenanigans.
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