The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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Buffalo wrote:Gay marriage was already legal before prop 8. Prop 8 re-defined marriage in order to exclude the hated minority.


What a lie. It was briefly legal because some legal challenges overturned an older law. Prop 8 corrected the problem by making a constitutional amendment.

Another liberal game token.

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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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schreech wrote:The fact that you can't separate homosexuality and "butt-screwing" really speaks volumes about how shallow and bigoted you really are...I also find your fear of the "liberal" boogeyman, running around "indoctrinating" your children hilarious...I guess I can see why it would be disturbing to you if your children grew up accepting people for who they are - might make you feel bad about being a small-minded homophobe...


Homosexuality is about that. Men and women having sex with the same gender. You can create a lot of extra if you want, but your polluting the discussion because your not smart enough to actually logically debate the issue without adding politically liberal rhetoric.

In the end, you want to sex up our children with your gay agenda so you can use the legal system to violate the first amendment rights of religious people. It's also using kids as a pawn in your game. Sick... Very sick.

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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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jskains wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Yes, it's too bad he included a few jabs. It gave you a way to weasel out of actually responding to his argument.


His argument is false. I do not need to know a man or woman's sexual preferences to know their contributions. Do you need to know who butt-screwed who or who liked oral or who liked to fondle goats or who liked to dress in candy underwear to know a person. It's the liberal community that is so hardcore about exposing the bedroom affairs of others. Conservatives generally think those are private matters not for public consumption.

by the way, do you want to tell us all your dirty little bedroom activities? I bet it gives me a better view of your "human" experience.

JMS

Sexual orientation could be examined as a subset of identity studies. As homosexuals contribute through their own filter of this identity, it is possible that to understand their motivations, and their influence on history, we must understand the identity and how its construction has changes through time.

Or it could be reflected in theories that deal with hegemony. Could homosexuality be an expression in response to a proposed structure? Only way to know is study the individuals and their counter culture.

Or it could be a symptom of a crack in various class structures, for example showing the resolve of class identity is soft and call Marxist approaches into question.

Or it could really inform gender studies and how and why genders are created by cultures over time. This could lend light as to this potential identity as well.

Or a number of other important implications that only homosexual studies could help the historian with, that is, if bigots who should be mocked to scorn don't feel that the history and development of two to ten percent of the human population is unworthy of study in itself...

Willful ignorant bigotry.
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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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jskains wrote:Liberals and Anti-Prop 8 people screamed foul when we said that Gay Education was next.

It's been signed into law in California - Promotion of Homosexuality in Education under the guise of anti-bullying.

JMS


I'm still not clear on the connection between Prop 8 and the "Gay Education" law.

Can you explain to me how things with the "Gay Education" law would be different if Prop 8 had never existed, or if it had not been passed?

The biggest factor in all this is the fact that we now have a Democrat governor. If Meg Whitman had won, I doubt she would have signed it, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. And it would still have nothing to do with Prop 8.
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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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Buffalo wrote:Thank you for demonstrating why you are intellectually incapable of debating your way out of a paper bag.

Putting your gross bigotry on display was also helpful. Thanks.


Hey, the gross bigotry against Mormonism you and your ilk display every day (especially your pal Joseph) exceeds anything I have demonstrated.

by the way, talk about "intellectually incapable". You came into this "debate" name-calling and insulting. I started with presenting my position. I think I have at least demonstrated my ability to start with the issues rather than rushing to character assassinations.

Learn to debate yourself before you judge the skills of others.

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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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One more thing, this is not an argument. This is irrefutable fact. This is how the study of history is done.
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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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jskains wrote:
What a lie.


Oh?

jskains wrote:
It was briefly legal


Oh, so I was right. That makes you the liar. Thanks!
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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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Spurven Ten Sing wrote:Willful ignorant bigotry.


The true example of ignorant bigotry is the one who can't stand people having opinions other than theirs.

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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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Spurven Ten Sing wrote:One more thing, this is not an argument. This is irrefutable fact. This is how the study of history is done.


Of course it is. Just like the normality of homosexual is an irrefutable fact. It's easy to seal the door and silence your opposition than actually have to fight for your position.

A classic liberal tactic.

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Re: The Liberal Lie on Prop 8

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jskains wrote:
schreech wrote:The fact that you can't separate homosexuality and "butt-screwing" really speaks volumes about how shallow and bigoted you really are...I also find your fear of the "liberal" boogeyman, running around "indoctrinating" your children hilarious...I guess I can see why it would be disturbing to you if your children grew up accepting people for who they are - might make you feel bad about being a small-minded homophobe...


Homosexuality is about that. Men and women having sex with the same gender. You can create a lot of extra if you want, but your polluting the discussion because your not smart enough to actually logically debate the issue without adding politically liberal rhetoric.

In the end, you want to sex up our children with your gay agenda so you can use the legal system to violate the first amendment rights of religious people. It's also using kids as a pawn in your game. Sick... Very sick.

JMS


It could be argued successfully that there are a far greater number of "butt screwers" among straight people than among gays.

Extra stupidity points for thinking that gay women are by and large "butt screwers."

You have the intellect of a dazed badger.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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