The Single Greatest Distortion of LDS Doctrine Ever?

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_ludwigm
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Re: The Single Greatest Distortion of LDS Doctrine Ever?

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MCB wrote:
why me wrote:...
Yes, I know that you think that Swedenborg was as much a prophet as Joseph Smith. <rolls eyes>


Apparently he was not:


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedenborg wrote:
One aspect of Swedenborg's writing that is often discussed is his ideas of marriage. Swedenborg himself remained a bachelor all his life, but that did not hinder him from writing voluminously about the subject. His work on Marriage Love (Conjugial Love in older translation)(1768) was dedicated to this purpose.
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Re: The Single Greatest Distortion of LDS Doctrine Ever?

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The term "outer darkness" comes from the Book of Revelations and is an English translation of the Greek "Tartarous" which in Greek legend is the place where the Titans were kept after they tried to storm Mount Olympus. It is said to be a place of complete darkness as far below the Earth as the stars are above the Earth. The Titans (Giants) were said to be "chained" in Tartarous because they tried to overthrow the Gods.

It is from Pagan mythology. How the Christians interpreted that, or what Joseph Smith meant by it, who knows.
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Re: The Single Greatest Distortion of LDS Doctrine Ever?

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Nevo wrote:
harmony wrote:Personally I think that's hilarously funny. It's absolutely contrary to anything any GA has ever said about hell.

Well, not completely contrary:

"God loves his offspring, the human family. His design is not simply to furnish happiness to the few here, called Latter-day Saints. The plan and scheme that he is now carrying out is for universal salvation; not only for the salvation of the Latter-day Saints, but for the salvation of every man and woman on the face of the earth, for those also in the spirit world, and for those who may hereafter come upon the face of the earth. It is for the salvation of every son and daughter of Adam. They are the offspring of the Almighty, he loves them all and his plans are for the salvation of the whole, and he will bring all up into that position in which they will be as happy and as comfortable as they are willing to be."

— Lorenzo Snow, Journal of Discourses 14:308 (14 Jan 1872); compare D&C 88:32


That was just Lorenzo Snow's opinion.
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Re: The Single Greatest Distortion of LDS Doctrine Ever?

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DarkHelmet wrote:Well, not completely contrary:

"God loves his offspring, the human family. His design is not simply to furnish happiness to the few here, called Latter-day Saints. The plan and scheme that he is now carrying out is for universal salvation; not only for the salvation of the Latter-day Saints, but for the salvation of every man and woman on the face of the earth, for those also in the spirit world, and for those who may hereafter come upon the face of the earth. It is for the salvation of every son and daughter of Adam. They are the offspring of the Almighty, he loves them all and his plans are for the salvation of the whole, and he will bring all up into that position in which they will be as happy and as comfortable as they are willing to be."

— Lorenzo Snow, Journal of Discourses 14:308 (14 Jan 1872); compare D&C 88:32



I think that is exactly what Satan was selling. Lorenzo Snow can tell you all about OUTER DARKNESS. No doubt about who Lorenzo Snow is. Do not tell anyone over on the other board who are puzzled about who the Man of Sin the Son of Perdition might be. If it is someone LDS then the falling away would have to LDS too. Oh my! And he would have to be seated in an LDS temple. My my my!

See 2 Thessalonians chapter 2

According to my theology, it is Lorenzo Snow who sat in the temple of God, (took up his residence as the first temple president of the Salt Lake Temple) showing himself to be God, (a flowing white beard and all, who grandly received guest into HIS home) who exalted himself above all that is called god or that is worshiped. (as man now is God once was, as God now is man may become) and who made a covenant with death and hell to flood the church with the spew of Satan's mouth his Druid tares of whom many silly women slandered the crap out of poor old Joseph Smith, whom I 'think' Lorenzo shot to become a son of perdition and who secretly sought to overthrow the Restoration and succeeded wonderfully even to enshrine MONEY as the seal of worthiness. Satan knows that you can buy anything in this world for money. Heh heh heh heh hell, I mean, heh.

Oh, the proof that LS is a son of perdition is found in Section 138 vision of the redemption of the dead where all the dead prophets are accounted for EXCEPT Lorenzo. He was truly born again according to his own witness and if he did kill Joseph Smith for his sister, Elisa, he was planning it for years.(Satan entered his heart and he recruited the Druid hordes of England on a mission there to come take over the Church he knew he could direct from the shadows, ALA his Polysophical Society with his nifty brood of bad girls) he shed innocent blood and became a SoP. And so nicely fulfilled all the prophecy. Now it just needs to be revealed so that Christ can return. Neat huh? The LDS are so toast and don't know it. Thus were these mongrel dogs brought forth to the confrontation and condemnation of The Apocalrock. To witness the end of days for the Gentiles.

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