Young Earth Frustration

[_Ceeboo]

Hey Just me,

Well, honestly, the reason I started this thread was because I wanted to know how a YEC would explain away the fact we can see stars that are over 6000 light years away. In addition, it would be awesome to know how they explain away tree rings and ice cores that are over 6000 years old.

These are pieces of evidence that to most people prove that the Earth is much older than 6000ish years. We don't even have to look at C-14.

But, now I am thinking that there are no YEC on this board and my simple search of the net has yielded nothing. Maybe there is nothing to be found.

I am aware that the "positions" of the YEC's might not be accepted/believed/shared by someone who is seeking to hear their position. But to suggest that they have no position (search yielding nothing)regarding light years, tree rings, ice cores, fossils, dating methods, etc, etc, is simply not accurate.

Surely the YEC's positions are heavily debated by both believers and non-believers. But clearly, they offer their position on all of these things.

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_just me]

Well, honestly, the reason I started this thread was because I wanted to know how a YEC would explain away the fact we can see stars that are over 6000 light years away. In addition, it would be awesome to know how they explain away tree rings and ice cores that are over 6000 years old.

These are pieces of evidence that to most people prove that the Earth is much older than 6000ish years. We don't even have to look at C-14.

But, now I am thinking that there are no YEC on this board and my simple search of the net has yielded nothing. Maybe there is nothing to be found.

Maybe the problem is associating the young earth theory and the creation event together. Can they not be separate?

So the question is, can creation, biblical history (young earth theory), and old earth theory all be true at the same time. I believe they can.

Explain.

[_just me]

Hey Just me,

Well, honestly, the reason I started this thread was because I wanted to know how a YEC would explain away the fact we can see stars that are over 6000 light years away. In addition, it would be awesome to know how they explain away tree rings and ice cores that are over 6000 years old.

These are pieces of evidence that to most people prove that the Earth is much older than 6000ish years. We don't even have to look at C-14.

But, now I am thinking that there are no YEC on this board and my simple search of the net has yielded nothing. Maybe there is nothing to be found.

I am aware that the "positions" of the YEC's might not be accepted/believed/shared by someone who is seeking to hear their position. But to suggest that they have no position (search yielding nothing)regarding light years, tree rings, ice cores, fossils, dating methods, etc, etc, is simply not accurate.

Surely the YEC's positions are heavily debated by both believers and non-believers. But clearly, they offer their position on all of these things.

Peace,
Ceeboo

Ceeboo, I have not seen any position put forth by them. If you are aware of where I might locate them I would love to see. The site you offered previously is silent on these matters.

To clarify, I have seen nothing on tree rings, ice cores or light years.

[_madeleine]

http://www.icr.org ....has figured these questions out.

also answersincreation.org for the opposite view

[_Ceeboo]

Hi again, JM

Ceeboo, I have not seen any position put forth by them. If you are aware of where I might locate them I would love to see. The site you offered previously is silent on these matters.

To clarify, I have seen nothing on tree rings, ice cores or light years.

Look, because I am not a YEC, I do not like to speak for or attempt to explain their position on things. (Fair?)

Having said that, the site I offered you (as well as many other YEC sites/museums) talk about their positions on all the things you mention (ice cores, light years/red shift, tree rings, fossils) and a lot more.

Again, to not agree with their position is one thing, but clearly, they certainly have them.

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_EAllusion]

just me -

Just like LDS apologia, if you can name a critical argument, you almost certainly can find some reply to it in the YEC literature. In the examples you listed, you can find tons of replies. I googled this in 2 seconds:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Young_Eart ... e_Universe

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... econe-pine

http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v16/i1/ice_core.asp

[Guest]

In the examples you listed, you can find tons of replies. I googled this in 2 seconds:

Without question, and if you would have spent about 4 minutes on google, you might have seen a cowboy boot fossil, a pan fossil, a plane wreck buried in an ice core that dates to be around 65,000 years old, polystrate tree fossils going through 200,000 years of mud layers, etc, etc, etc.

Again, you can certainly debate their position, but they do indeed have positions.

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_just me]

just me -

Just like LDS apologia, if you can name a critical argument, you almost certainly can find some reply to it in the YEC literature. In the examples you listed, you can find tons of replies. I googled this in 2 seconds:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Young_Eart ... e_Universe

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... econe-pine

http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v16/i1/ice_core.asp

Thanks, that is exactly what I was looking for.

[_MCB]

YEC is at the core of Mormonism.
Those peoples who were found in the places most isolated from the Fertile Crescent just can't be human, according to YEC's. So, how to make them human?

Just stating the obvious, for the few here who haven't gotten that far.

[_Quasimodo]

In the examples you listed, you can find tons of replies. I googled this in 2 seconds:

Without question, and if you would have spent about 4 minutes on google, you might have seen a cowboy boot fossil, a pan fossil, a plane wreck buried in an ice core that dates to be aroung 65,000 years old, polystrate tree fossils going through 200,000 years of mud layers, etc, etc, etc.

Again, you can certainly debate their position, but they do indeed have positions.





Peace,
Ceeboo

Not really, Ceeboo. There are lots of questionable reports out there on the web that support a young earth theory. Non of them hold water. Just like reports about bigfoot and chupacabra.

If you're interested in history (real history) may I suggest you visit:

http://www.archaeologica.org/NewsPage.htm

It's a site that I go to daily. It lists most of the current news about archaeology on a daily basis and might help you to put things into perspective.

I have fossils on my desk that alone are enough to refute the idea that the earth is very young.