Evolution, big bang and why we the religious are so wrong

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Dragon bones.
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honorentheos wrote:Dragon bones.


Dragon's blood and unicorn poop and phoenix feathers and eye of newt.
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just me wrote:
honorentheos wrote:Dragon bones.


Dragon's blood and unicorn poop and phoenix feathers and eye of newt.

It was one of those double take moments. Upon reading it, I reread it out loud as if to verify it was really there. By typing it, I wondered if anyone else saw it.
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hatersinmyward wrote:that fact does not prove or disprove a big bang.

is mercury and every other planet not moving closer to the sun?

analyze the spectrograph of venus. it has 2 large iorn deposits at both ends.

or will you dispute that fact as well?

the moon is moving away from the earth according to young earth science.

but of course you already checked it right quazi?


I ran this through Google translator but still didn't get anything. Haters, please explain what this means.

edited to add: In American English.
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the activities and physical structures of every planet in our solar system prove our solar system runs in a cycle.

how pluto will some day be like uranus: pluto is a hunk of ice, so it will attract the most simple element in the cosmos hydrogen. hydrogen is the first element on the periodic table, 1 proton 1 neutron. uranus is almost pure hydrogen but has a solid ice core. pluto is moving closer to the sun along with every other planet in our solar system.

how uranus will one day be like neptune: uranus's hydrogen composition will attract more complex gas elements making it alot like neptune. which is composed of complex gasses. neptune is moving closer to the sun along with every other planet in our solar system.

how neptune will one day be like saturn: the complex gasses in netune's atmosphere will attract wondering sub atomic particles and plazmas making neptune much like saturn. neptune is moving closer to the sun along with ever other planet in our solar system.

how saturn will one day be like jupiter: saturn is made up of plazmas. saturn's rings are situated in order. the inner rings are light solid elements and the outer rings are the heaviest. mass attracts mass. saturn is moving closer to the sun along with every other planet in our soar system.

how jupiter will one day be like mars: jupiter is radioactive and shrinking. it is a big violent mess because elements are being made and the excess is being sent out as radiation. when it is done radiating it will be solid excess waste sent off into space. leaving a relatively stable planet like mars.

how mars will one day be like earth: mars has an ice cap and a lot of surface ice but no polls because it doesn't have a moon yet. ozone and other gasses are in the ice cap that has yet to melt.the spectrograph of the asteroid belt is almost identical to the composition of earth's moon. as mars moves closer to the sun the astroid belt will move closer to mars giving it a moon and polls. giving mars the ability to sustain life.

how earth will one day be like venus: venus has iron deposits on both ends just like earth. earths. earth's moon is moving away from the earth explaining why venus has no moon but yet polar iron deposits. as the earth gets closer to the sun the atmosphere will burn up. why venus doesn't have an atmosphere.

how venus will be like mercury: venus will condense as it gets closer to the sun, all of its valcons will spit out the core. venus is moving closer to the sun just like every other planet in our solar system.

mercury will hit the sun in creasing the sun's mass and sucking every other planet in much faster when that happens.

the sun: when mercury or if a large enough dense object or asteroid hits the sun the suns density will suck the planets into it.

all of these planetary traits have been researched and confirmed.
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LDS religious aren't wrong because we can accept Big Bang/Evolution without conflict with doctrine or scripture and doctrinally we embrace science though of course many individuals don't (but think they do).
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hatersinmyward wrote:
...all of these planetary traits have been researched and confirmed.


By whom?

And how does this invalidate the big bang theory?
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Poe's law was probably formulated under similar circumstances as this.
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hatersinmyward wrote:the activities and physical structures of every planet in our solar system prove our solar system runs in a cycle.

how pluto will some day be like uranus: pluto is a hunk of ice, so it will attract the most simple element in the cosmos hydrogen. hydrogen is the first element on the periodic table, 1 proton 1 neutron. uranus is almost pure hydrogen but has a solid ice core. pluto is moving closer to the sun along with every other planet in our solar system.

how uranus will one day be like neptune: uranus's hydrogen composition will attract more complex gas elements making it a lot like neptune. which is composed of complex gasses. neptune is moving closer to the sun along with every other planet in our solar system.

how neptune will one day be like saturn: the complex gasses in netune's atmosphere will attract wondering sub atomic particles and plazmas making neptune much like saturn. neptune is moving closer to the sun along with ever other planet in our solar system.

how saturn will one day be like jupiter: saturn is made up of plazmas. saturn's rings are situated in order. the inner rings are light solid elements and the outer rings are the heaviest. mass attracts mass. saturn is moving closer to the sun along with every other planet in our soar system.

how jupiter will one day be like mars: jupiter is radioactive and shrinking. it is a big violent mess because elements are being made and the excess is being sent out as radiation. when it is done radiating it will be solid excess waste sent off into space. leaving a relatively stable planet like mars.

how mars will one day be like earth: mars has an ice cap and a lot of surface ice but no polls because it doesn't have a moon yet. ozone and other gasses are in the ice cap that has yet to melt.the spectrograph of the asteroid belt is almost identical to the composition of earth's moon. as mars moves closer to the sun the astroid belt will move closer to mars giving it a moon and polls. giving mars the ability to sustain life.

how earth will one day be like venus: venus has iron deposits on both ends just like earth. earths. earth's moon is moving away from the earth explaining why venus has no moon but yet polar iron deposits. as the earth gets closer to the sun the atmosphere will burn up. why venus doesn't have an atmosphere.

how venus will be like mercury: venus will condense as it gets closer to the sun, all of its valcons will spit out the core. venus is moving closer to the sun just like every other planet in our solar system.

mercury will hit the sun in creasing the sun's mass and sucking every other planet in much faster when that happens.

the sun: when mercury or if a large enough dense object or asteroid hits the sun the suns density will suck the planets into it.

all of these planetary traits have been researched and confirmed.


I have bolded the statements which might be considered factual. Everything else you've written is a cargo-load of nonsense. Please consider the possibility that the pseudo-scientific sources you've been perusing to educate yourself are absolutely full of crap.
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I lifted this from LDS.ORG today
Perhaps the most heated and prolonged discussions during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries centered on the creation of the earth and the theories of organic evolution. In the midst of these controversies the First Presidency asked Elder Orson F. Whitney of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles to draft a statement that would convey the Church’s official position on the origin of man. Elder Whitney’s statement was subsequently approved and signed by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and published in 1909 as an official declaration of the Church. This statement affirmed that:

“All men and women are in the similitude of the universal Father and Mother, and are literally the sons and daughters of Deity. …

“… Man, as a spirit, was begotten and born of heavenly parents, and reared to maturity in the eternal mansions of the Father, prior to coming upon the earth in a temporal body to undergo an experience in mortality. …

“It is held by some that Adam was not the first man upon this earth, and that the original human being was a development from lower orders of the animal creation. These, however, are the theories of men. The word of the Lord declares that Adam was ‘the first man of all men’ (Moses 1:34), and we are therefore in duty bound to regard him as the primal parent of our race. … Man began life as a human being, in the likeness of our heavenly Father.”


It would seem that the Church is unequivocal in it's disbelief in the evolution of man. That Adam came to earth in a mature, developed condition is the Church's exact position. How does that sit with Evolution? I don't think it does...
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