Daniel Peterson wrote:Joey, you're a boring monomaniac with an absurd personal chip on his shoulder, and you seem to be about twelve.
Good one Peterson! I'll wait for the quality response a midnight your time! Popcorn?
"It's not so much that FARMS scholarship in the area Book of Mormon historicity is "rejected' by the secular academic community as it is they are "ignored". [Daniel Peterson, May, 2004]
Daniel Peterson wrote:I don't think the Church does a good job on this issue. I think we can do better, and am working toward seeing that we do.
As we hear a huge sigh of relief from Romney and Huntsman in their campaigns knowing that "Provo" is about to give "official" support to America's christians' questions! Thank God Peterson's gonna take this one on with all his message board influence!
I was just at a Huntsman fundraiser this past Wednesday night in Vegas. He had no problem bringing this issue up about in jest and reality. My gosh Peterson, does he know that YOU are getting involved to let America know the real "official" response and story?
Game changer from Provo! Only from Provo!!
Emphasis mine.
Joey, I'm guessing that whatever Daniel's statement was--pro, con, or off topic--you'd be against it. Am I right?
jon wrote:I have searched all the Church resources available to me and I cannot find a single solitary mention of Joseph's marriages to women who were already married. Not one.
I have searched all the Church resources available to me and I cannot find a single solitary mention of Joseph's marriages to women who were less than 15 years old. Not one.
I have searched all the Church resources available to me and I cannot find a single solitary mention of Polygamy being a practice that was kept secret from the general membership. Not one.
Does the Church teach the truth about Polygamy? No. Not even close.
what does the Church teach about polygamy? I can not say I have ever heard a GC talk on polygamy, as far as my understanding and church attendance is, the Church does not teach anything on polygamy.
members and missionaries like to make things up about polygamy, but my experience is that the LDS Church does not have gc or sunday school lessons on polygamy.
I did learn the standad spiel that polygamy was only practiced by a few and that it was a necessity because there were more women than men.
Funny, I never heard the last part of this "spiel" growing up but I did know that Joseph Smith was plurally married. Probably in part because I had read D&C 132.
Maybe I haven't been paying attn. enough on the boards but, what is the general TBM consensus as to why exactly God instituted P. with Joseph Smith, since it wasn't a male shortage issue? Why did God institute a moratorium instead of maybe moving his group to an area that allowed it? Why do TBM's tend to shy away from wishing it back....if it became legal again, since it is an eternal and intregal aspect of LDS philosophy?
Daniel Peterson wrote:I don't think the Church does a good job on this issue. I think we can do better, and am working toward seeing that we do.
Bravo! The Church can be enhanced by such honesty. Keep plugging away and know that your efforts on this will be appreciated. The ghosts of the past will always be there to haunt us if we simply ignore them.
I did learn the standad spiel that polygamy was only practiced ... because there were more women than men.
You can still hear this today if the subject of polygamy should arise at Church (and is not squashed after the first sentence as being something we do not talk about).
3sheets2thewind wrote:, the Church does not teach anything on polygamy.
This is not true. It is taught in seminary and there is a seminary book about the history of the LDS church where it is mentioned and Joseph Smith is the person who started it. However it does lack detail.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
consiglieri wrote:(I asked if she had ever read section 132. She said no, and if she did, she probably wouldn't understand it anyway. Although I think she would understand more than she thinks, is her position that different from many active LDS?)
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
Why hasn't she read section 132 and why didn't you cover it during a family home evening? Much could have been solved by doing this.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith