Hoops wrote: Do you think He has hidden evidence of the flood?
If there was a flood and God created it then yes I do think he hide the evidence.
Language development? Don't we agree that language began as a single language (or a single developing strain, which is more accurate but irrelevant to this point)? And that fits with the tower story.
I really don't know a lot about this one but I think language development was over a much larger period of time then just from the tower of babel.
hmm.. ya, it's called apologetics.. kinda a big thing in christianity.
..must make sacrifice of his own life to atone. for the blood of Christ alone under certain circumstances will not avail." - Bruce R. McConkie
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, … Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man (a.k.a., Jesus) will be forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32).
Rambo wrote:I really don't know a lot about this one but I think language development was over a much larger period of time then just from the tower of babel.
Yep, the "confounding" story doesn't make a lot of sense, if you understand the history and development of language at all. Again, the Tower of Babel seems to me to be one of those Bible stories that shouldn't be taken literally. But then I'm a heretic.
Isn't there truth in spiritual life, isn't love true? Isn't altruism true? Compassion? The inexplicable love a parent has for her child? Why are those truths less significant then scientific truths?
The things you point out as spiritual truths do not conflict with science. There is no issue.
I don't know that we can really say the inexplicable love a parent has for a child is "true." What would true mean in this case? We certainly know of many, many parents who abuse and even murder their own offspring.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Rambo wrote:I really don't know a lot about this one but I think language development was over a much larger period of time then just from the tower of babel.
Yep, the "confounding" story doesn't make a lot of sense, if you understand the history and development of language at all. Again, the Tower of Babel seems to me to be one of those Bible stories that shouldn't be taken literally. But then I'm a heretic.
Language development? Don't we agree that language began as a single language (or a single developing strain, which is more accurate but irrelevant to this point)? And that fits with the tower story.
Hmmm. I'm pretty sure that the development of language shows that many have absolutely nothing to do with eachother and then many are related to eachother. God could have made it that way on pupose to confuse modern scientists, but why?
For example, when European arrived in North America there were over 900 distinct languages spoken by the natives of this land. Some of them had absolutely nothing in common with others. This has led to the theory that there were several crossings from Asia. They date these crossings beyond 6000 years ago.
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~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
The things you point out as spiritual truths do not conflict with science. There is no issue.
Didn't say they did. I'm just saying that these truths are equally true as scientific truths. Why are believers limited to using only one arena of truths to explain other truths? Believers begin with an acceptance of the supernatural (that is just a small step from repentance, by the way), so we can rightfully include those explanations for other things.
I don't know that we can really say the inexplicable love a parent has for a child is "true." What would true mean in this case? We certainly know of many, many parents who abuse and even murder their own offspring.
Just because it is not universally applied doesn't make the actual "thing" not true. A parent's love is true exclusive of its application.