Speaking of polygamy...

[_just me]

I kinda have to side with Mormons on polygamy, or at least with their prophets Joseph Smith and Young. There is tons of evidence for shag'n down with a bunch of wives in the Bible, and only one prohibition that I know of, and that is for leaders in the church.

The Bible also has rules and allowance for slavery. Tons of evidence.

[_dogmatic]

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The Bible also has rules and allowance for slavery. Tons of evidence.[/quote]

hence we can't believe anything in the Bible?
I was joking a bit, my wife would kill me if I married another woman.

[_dogmatic]

I know that Mormons believe polygamy is a eternal principle, my question, when you go now to get sealed to other wives for the hear after... how does that work? Are you sealing to dead people, that weren't married, or do you steal wives from husbands like Joseph Smith? Or is that a temple secret?

[_dogmatic]

The Bible also has rules and allowance for slavery. Tons of evidence.

...and? because the Bible has allowances for slavery polygamy is wrong.. don't get your logic. I guess your saying we can't trust anything in the Bible.

[_just me]

The Bible also has rules and allowance for slavery. Tons of evidence.

...and? because the Bible has allowances for slavery polygamy is wrong.. don't get your logic. I guess your saying we can't trust anything in the Bible.

I'm saying it would be unwise to use it as a moral guide. I never said polygamy was wrong, either. I disagree strongly with the way Mormon polygamy was practiced. I disagree strongly that a god would command and threaten to kill people if they didn't go outside their marriage to get sex without the permission of their spouse. I disagree with a man being able to shag whomever he can while the woman cannot enjoy the same privilege.

Besides, I highly doubt Solomon (if he existed) really had 900 wives (or whatever the outrageous number was). If he did, I don't believe it was god's idea.

[_Runtu]

I know that Mormons believe polygamy is a eternal principle, my question, when you go now to get sealed to other wives for the hear after... how does that work? Are you sealing to dead people, that weren't married, or do you steal wives from husbands like Joseph Smith? Or is that a temple secret?

It's pretty simple: If you are a man, you're sealed to one wife. If your wife divorces you or dies, you can be sealed to another living wife. My uncle, for example, was married in the temple to my aunt. A couple of years after she died, he was remarried and later sealed to his second wife. According to LDS doctrine, he will have two wives in the celestial kingdom.

No one is doing any "stealing" of wives from husbands. That hasn't happened in a very long time.

[_dogmatic]

I disagree strongly with the way Mormon polygamy was practiced. I disagree strongly that a god would command and threaten to kill people if they didn't go outside their marriage to get sex without the permission of their spouse. I disagree with a man being able to shag whomever he can while the woman cannot enjoy the same privilege.

God seems to condone it here:
And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

So if his hundreds of wives weren't enough, he would have given him many more. that's the difference between polig and slaves. The Bible makes allowances for a cultural norm slavery, but does not cast it in a positive or negative light. This verse seems to say these wives were a "good" thing, because God doesn't do evil. So the least you can say (or someone that believed about the Bible) is it's not evil.

I'll be honest, I don't really think polygamy is that great of an idea. Just pointing out, it's well defended in the Bible. What is not defended is Joseph Smiths kind of Polygamy.. he would be just as guilty as david for stealing other mens wives.

[_just me]

I disagree strongly with the way Mormon polygamy was practiced. I disagree strongly that a god would command and threaten to kill people if they didn't go outside their marriage to get sex without the permission of their spouse. I disagree with a man being able to shag whomever he can while the woman cannot enjoy the same privilege.

God seems to condone it here:
And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

So if his hundreds of wives weren't enough, he would have given him many more. that's the difference between polig and slaves. The Bible makes allowances for a cultural norm slavery, but does not cast it in a positive or negative light. This verse seems to say these wives were a "good" thing, because God doesn't do evil. So the least you can say (or someone that believed about the Bible) is it's not evil.

I'll be honest, I don't really think polygamy is that great of an idea. Just pointing out, it's well defended in the Bible. What is not defended is Joseph Smiths kind of Polygamy.. he would be just as guilty as david for stealing other mens wives.

That is why I pointed out that so is slavery. I hope we can all agree that slavery isn't that great an idea, either. Yet, God is totally down with slavery in the Good Book.

Rape, too. So, let's just agree that using the Bible to backup practices that aren't that great an idea is a bad idea. :)

[_dogmatic]

O no she threw rape in the ring! Do I hear a mass genocide? This is off course from what I was saying. I was just saying polig is defendable in the Bible.

[_just me]

O no she threw rape in the ring! Do I hear a mass genocide? This is off course from what I was saying. I was just saying polig is defendable in the Bible.

And I am saying that so are a lot of things. Why does it being in the Bible mean anything at all? Why does that mean that it is acceptable?

You say that polygamy can be defended using the Bible and I say "yep, so can a lot of things." In other words, being able to defend something using the Bible isn't a very good defense at all. Because if you do then you have to tell me why you think the Bible defense is valid for polygamy and not for slavery.

Repetition is repetitious. /repetition

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