Some thoughts on the Flood

[_just me]

The world wasn't warm enough to make evaporation possible back then.
Also, they couldn't boil water.

What do you mean?

Trying to come up with why there was no clouds or rain, if that was the case. Brainstorming.

[_Hoops]

Trying to come up with why there was no clouds or rain, if that was the case. Brainstorming.

What does boiling water have to do with it? I see no reason why water couldn't be boiled. I didn't say there was no evaporation. I did say there was no rain. Perhaps there were clouds, I don't know and the Bible doesn't tell us.

[_EAllusion]

Clouds form because H2O at a certain temperature and pressure turns from water into gas and back again. That condensation then later leads to water falling out of the sky. We call that rain. This is a consequence of how much heat energy it takes to override the polar bonding affinity of water molecules. It is a necessary consequence of how electron fields attract to protons. In order for there not to be things like clouds, this means this wasn't the case.

But it's those same chemical properties of water that make life possible. There are trillions of chemical reactions occurring in you right now that are dependent on the polar bonding properties of water at a given range of pressure and temperature.

[_Dr. Shades]

Not to mention another important question: When the animals left the ark, what did the lions eat?

[_Fence Sitter]

I always figured it meant that plants were the originating stuff of all food in the food chain (which is sort of partially correct). In other words, herbivores eat the plants, which then are built into muscles, etc., which are then eaten by carnivores. .

If there was no death before the fall, how could a lion eat a Thompson's Gazelle?

Who says the gazelle has to be dead when the lion eats it? Maybe the leg just grows back after the gazelle offers the lion a snack. Since we don't how this process worked it is easy to offer up any explanation we want.

[_just me]

Trying to come up with why there was no clouds or rain, if that was the case. Brainstorming.

What does boiling water have to do with it? I see no reason why water couldn't be boiled. I didn't say there was no evaporation. I did say there was no rain. Perhaps there were clouds, I don't know and the Bible doesn't tell us.

Do you not know because the Bible doesn't tell us? Can we know?

Anyway, I am thinking that if evaporation was possible then it would have had to have rained. The only way for there to be no rain is for evaporation to be impossible.

It sounds like there couldn't have been seasons because in the summer the streams would have evaportated and there couldn't be a "wet" season since there was no rain. But, if the earth was rotating around the sun properly there would have had to have been seasons. If it was hot then water would evaporate and clouds would form and rain would have to happen at some point.

You can't have clouds and never have rain. You can't have evaporation and no rain. The water fills up the clouds (so not the scientific verbage) and then comes back down. It can't just keep filling and filling and filling for 1500 years.

This is all my brainstorming, I am no saying you are saying any of this. I'm just running with the "no rain" idea.

Anyway, here is a Biblical response to why there was rain before the flood. In other words, a reading of the text only demands that there be no rain before the creation of MAN. http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... fore-flood

Then we are only left with how there could be rain without a rainbow.

[_Hoops]

Clouds form because H2O at a certain temperature and pressure turns from water into gas and back again. That condensation then later leads to water falling out of the sky. We call that rain. This is a consequence of how much heat energy it takes to override the polar bonding affinity of water molecules. It is a necessary consequence of how electron fields attract to protons. In order for there not to be things like clouds, this means this wasn't the case.

But it's those same chemical properties of water that make life possible. There are trillions of chemical reactions occurring in you right now that are dependent on the polar bonding properties of water at a given range of pressure and temperature.

I understand that. My point is that Noah's flood was a cataclysmic (sp?) event. The entire earth and all its inhabitants were impacted. That's what the biblical record tells us. This would include a change in weather patterns, particularly since there was less surface water from which we get weather. One can presume that the earth was warmer and the atmosphere held a lot of moisture - hence no need for rain. Add to that the biblical account that mountains were much smaller, the earth was flatte, which make the rivers flow at a less gradient. That effects weather patterns as well.

[_Hoops]

Anyway, here is a Biblical response to why there was rain before the flood. In other words, a reading of the text only demands that there be no rain before the creation of MAN. http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... fore-flood

Then we are only left with how there could be rain without a rainbow.

I'm familiar with this argument.

[_just me]

the earth was flatte

Hey, Hoops. What does that mean? I googled and it is French.

[_Hoops]

the earth was flatte

Hey, Hoops. What does that mean? I googled and it is French.

Lol. Touche'!!

I think it means: "the earth was exactly as I described it and if you don't agree with me you're stupid." (that certainly has the tone of the French)