The local flood

[_Rambo]

Good points Rambo. A regular type of flood along the Euphrates floodplain would be very small in comparison to my proposed local flood. In fact, it would be so small we would all be left wondering why Noah had to build an ark at all. They simply need to pack up and head up to higher ground (say, 50 or 100 feet higher). I messed up my dam a little in that drawing and don't want to go back and fix it. You are right, the line should not be shown that way on the left side.

I did the Hoover dam tour as well. Truly, an engineering marvel.

Thanks for clearing things up zee. I guess around this area in must not be extremely flat. Maybe the garden of eden was in Manitoba. They have huge floods there that seem to cover very large areas. Or it could be in Bangladesh. At one time I remember the news saying 2/3 of Bangledesh was under water.

The Hoover Dam was pretty cool to visit. The wind is really strong coming up at the top of the dam. If you threw a penny off the dam it would get shot back up and land on the cars traveling on the dam behind you. This would happen to your spit as well.

[_zeezrom]

In a flooded floodplain you get a lot of property damage and a few deaths but many humans and animals have time to walk up to higher ground. Yeah, many people will be wading in the water as they travel upward to dry ground. Some might get washed away. Certainly, you would not build an ark to survive the flood in that case. So, you build an ark and float out to the Persian Gulf then end up hiking back into town, about 10 times the distance you would have hiked if you had just headed east instead.

Maybe this is why wisemen came from the east. They were the wise ones who moved to higher ground instead of building an ark that floated out to sea.

[_dogmatic]

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[_Dr. Shades]

According to the Bible, the earth HAD to have been global. Otherwise, when God put the rainbow in the sky, what, exactly, was He promising to never do again?

If He was promising never to cause a LOCAL flood again, well, he's broken his promise hundreds if not thousands of times since then.

[_zeezrom]

According to the Bible, the earth HAD to have been global. Otherwise, when God put the rainbow in the sky, what, exactly, was He promising to never do again?

If He was promising never to cause a LOCAL flood again, well, he's broken his promise hundreds if not thousands of times since then.

Good point Doctor. Although, you are assuming that a LOCAL flood is just overtopping of the floodway. There is another type of flood, such as the one I illustrated in the image above. This one, however, requires God's intervention to build a massive dam then make it disappear after the flood. Hey, if he can do it with a stone box, he can do it with a giant dam.

[_Themis]

I recognize that (I'm not a Biblical literalist), but some people seem to believe that the Flood must of necessity have been global. That's the perspective I'm interested in, though, as Zee showed, a local flood has its problems too.

It has many problems, but many want to believe that parts of the story are true. I think the mythical story may be based on a flood event. The Black sea looks to be a good candidate since I understand it was a smaller fresh water lake before the ice started to melt at the end of the last ice age and at some point was flooded by rising waters in the Mediterranean. This is where at lot of myths sometimes get there start.

Edit: It's funny to watch, and I did the same thing, LDS want to argue a local flood but keep all the other parts of the story.

[_just me]

I'm having a hard time understanding why a local flood would keep Noah in the ark about 1 whole year.

It should be pretty clear to readers that numbers used in the Bible are symbolic and not literal. Otherwise, wow, that is a lot of 40's.

Zee, I like what you pointed out about just moving to higher ground. Animals would have naturally done that. And I'm thinking that building an ark would have taken Noah years. Walking for years can get you really, really far away.

[_harmony]

I'm having a hard time understanding why a local flood would keep Noah in the ark about 1 whole year.

It should be pretty clear to readers that numbers used in the Bible are symbolic and not literal. Otherwise, wow, that is a lot of 40's.

Amazing how our highest leaders can't see it.

[_Hoops]

I'm having a hard time understanding why a local flood would keep Noah in the ark about 1 whole year.

Me to.

It should be pretty clear to readers that numbers used in the Bible are symbolic and not literal. Otherwise, wow, that is a lot of 40's.

How does the number of 40s indicate that they are symbolic?

Zee, I like what you pointed out about just moving to higher ground. Animals would have naturally done that.

Yep, they certainly would have.

And I'm thinking that building an ark would have taken Noah years. Walking for years can get you really, really far away.

Well, Noah had a lot of years on earth. Or are the ages of pre-noah humans symbolic as well? If so, symbolic of what? If not, that indicates that the earth and its inhabitants experienced a significant change in their being. If humans can, within a few generations, go from living hundreds of years to around 70 (which is a measurement of a generation, not the actual number of years every human will live) then it's not difficult to see that animals can go from a vegan diet to a meat diet.

[_just me]

Well, of course if men can live to 920 and women can bear children at age 90-100 anything is possible.

There is a song like that...With God, nothing is impossible!

We can move mountains, too.