Some thoughts on the Flood

[_Nightlion]

Hello,

If anyone thinks, at this point in our evolution, that there was a global flood... You can pretty much know they're insane.

You know. Like. They're literally insane.

Yep.

V/R
Dr. Cam

More like at this point in your willful disregard of truth you call insane on those who will not willfully disregard as you do. That is not rational. We can only hope you never militate against faith on pain of death.

Wonder how long history would wait before calling that crazy?
I sense you are already grooming for it, sending out feelers before you commit to a all out campaign of world-wide thought purification. No?

You beast.

[_Nightlion]

I'm not mocking God. I'm just showing how a global flood didn't happen.

How's that not mocking God?

[_Dr. Shades]

How's that not mocking God?

Because Odin didn't write the Bible.

[_Hoops]

Because Odin didn't write the Bible.

We don't know that.

[_Nightlion]

How's that not mocking God?

Because Odin didn't write the Bible.

Right :(

[_ludwigm]

We, all of us, are toddlers playing in the sandbox, compared to Barry Setterfield.
He wrote "The Velocity of Light and the Age of the Universe" in 1981.

It may be called off topic, but he proved that the age of universe is as old as it is computable from the Bible - was created 4040 BC (+- 20 years).

Picture (c) http://www.intelligentdesigntheory.information

(the curve) has its origin at 4040 BC and the speed of light then was about 5*10^11 faster than now, a value which probably held throughout Creation week. The speed of light became constant about AD1960.
...
(for example) the curve predicts a value at the time of the Flood - 2384 BC - of 1,621,908 km/sec

- see http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... y-of-light (as far as I remember, this answering... site was cited in this thread)
- then see http://www.intelligentdesigntheory.information ... light.html (in the heading of this page we can read: "FOREWORD: Three Important Events Not Taught in School: Creation of the Earth, Noah's Ark and Jesus' Death and Resurrection")

The texts are hard to read, but can be interesting what levels the apologetic can reach. As the "c" appears in definition of physical constants, they must be changed accordingly... And Setterfield did it.

After the pages above executed
- then see http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/c-decay.html

[_zeezrom]

Holy Cow. People go through a ton of work simply to make the Bible seem true. They would rather suggest the speed of light changed and many other physical laws changed than consider the possibility that some guy made up a story, which later on became holy. It amazes me.

Why do people want so badly for it to be true?

A friend recently told me that he needs to stay Mormon because it is comfortable. Is that why people need it to be true?

[_Buffalo]

Not to mention another important question: When the animals left the ark, what did the lions eat?

I am more than slightly annoyed these days as so many smart people only want to use their brains to mock God.

Noah did not receive WILD animals but those whom the Lord brought to him. God is able to multiply in the gut that which can sustain life indefinitely. Like multiply bread and fishes to feed 5000. Why could not your imagination go there instead of striving to make God a laughing stock?

Take this for a template and apply it liberally.

See literalists, this is your only real defense - appeal to magic.

[_Buffalo]

Holy Cow. People go through a ton of work simply to make the Bible seem true. They would rather suggest the speed of light changed and many other physical laws changed than consider the possibility that some guy made up a story, which later on became holy. It amazes me.

Why do people want so badly for it to be true?

A friend recently told me that he needs to stay Mormon because it is comfortable. Is that why people need it to be true?

Bob McCue says it's because we evolved in closely knit social groups. Those who didn't support their tribe, even when in error, tended not to breed. So, whenever our founding stories are challenged, we become very defensive and irrational.

[_Nightlion]

See literalists, this is your only real defense - appeal to magic.

God commands by the word of his power and things happen.

That has to be 100% consistent with what YOU call magic.

"Let there be light."

We do not call it magic when God is involved. With God, all things are possible.

That is why we are [I am] in awe and respectfully worship as unworthy beneficiaries of his grace.

We call it magic when anyone else dazzles us of their own accord. Always an illusion.

So I am only being consistent with faith in God to define his works as they are. Wondrous.