Fox Advocacy Group Declares Romney Non-Christian
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Okay this discussion really got off topic! My two cents. Every Mormon I've talked to answers the question of weather they would do what a prophet called and asked of them with "ofcourse I would." This is why I don't trust romeny or beck. He like all Mormons are puppets to the real "kings" of the world. The prophets. So essence the phrophets would rule America. In their many claims on world domination.
..must make sacrifice of his own life to atone. for the blood of Christ alone under certain circumstances will not avail." - Bruce R. McConkie
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, … Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man (a.k.a., Jesus) will be forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32).
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, … Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man (a.k.a., Jesus) will be forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32).
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1. Dr. Daniel C. Peterson - I would worry about a potential coup
2. Ms. Jack
3. Will Schryver - He would propose that the constitution actually tells us reunify with England
4. That crazy lady from Alaska - the country would finally be free of those pesky caribou
5. Bcspace - the government would finally be cut down to the size the FFs wanted. A president, congressMEN from red states, a military, and one custodian to clean all the government buildings.
#2 is the clear winner. I disagree with her most of the time, but she is a true intellectual.
2. Ms. Jack
3. Will Schryver - He would propose that the constitution actually tells us reunify with England
4. That crazy lady from Alaska - the country would finally be free of those pesky caribou
5. Bcspace - the government would finally be cut down to the size the FFs wanted. A president, congressMEN from red states, a military, and one custodian to clean all the government buildings.
#2 is the clear winner. I disagree with her most of the time, but she is a true intellectual.
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dogmatic wrote:Okay this discussion really got off topic! My two cents. Every Mormon I've talked to answers the question of weather they would do what a prophet called and asked of them with "ofcourse I would." This is why I don't trust romeny or beck. He like all Mormons are puppets to the real "kings" of the world. The prophets. So essence the phrophets would rule America. In their many claims on world domination.
Dang. Dogmatic has smoked us out.
Now everybody's going to know why Glenn Beck and Harry Reid and Mitt Romney and Mike Crapo and Jon Huntsman and Mike Lee and Bob Bennett and Jason Chaffetz and Orrin Hatch all walk in perfect lockstep with each other, politically speaking. They're all getting instructions beamed from Salt Lake City into the receivers implanted at the bases of their skulls.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:dogmatic wrote:Okay this discussion really got off topic! My two cents. Every Mormon I've talked to answers the question of weather they would do what a prophet called and asked of them with "ofcourse I would." This is why I don't trust romeny or beck. He like all Mormons are puppets to the real "kings" of the world. The prophets. So essence the phrophets would rule America. In their many claims on world domination.
Dang. Dogmatic has smoked us out.
Now everybody's going to know why Glenn Beck and Harry Reid and Mitt Romney and Mike Crapo and Jon Huntsman and Mike Lee and Bob Bennett and Jason Chaffetz and Orrin Hatch all walk in perfect lockstep with each other, politically speaking. They're all getting instructions beamed from Salt Lake City into the receivers implanted at the bases of their skulls.
They may not but the point is they would. The world domination doctrine of Mormons unlike Christ doctrine of this world is not his kingdom. Will play part in Mormon politics your an idiot if you don't think so. This has been Mormons doctrine from the beginning that's why your prophets are ordained as kings if this world. Just like Satan is the king of this world. You cam have this world.
..must make sacrifice of his own life to atone. for the blood of Christ alone under certain circumstances will not avail." - Bruce R. McConkie
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, … Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man (a.k.a., Jesus) will be forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32).
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, … Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man (a.k.a., Jesus) will be forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32).
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dogmatic wrote:They may not but the point is they would. The world domination doctrine of Mormons unlike Christ doctrine of this world is not his kingdom. Will play part in Mormon politics your an idiot if you don't think so.
Well, that pretty well takes care of me.
I don't think so, so I'm an idiot.
That's probably about the most concise refutation of an opponent that I've ever seen.
I concede defeat.
I can only take comfort in the fact that, come the revolution, you'll regret this victory. Anybody who has ever dared to dissent from us will feel the wrath of our mighty vengeance.
dogmatic wrote:This has been Mormons doctrine from the beginning that's why your prophets are ordained as kings if this world. Just like Satan is the king of this world. You cam have this world.
Thanks!
But, in that case, since you're willing to give us the world -- which is very kind of you, by the way, though it won't ultimately save you -- I don't quite understand why you object to our campaign to elect Mitt Romney as part of our plan for world domination.
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Stak -
I think it is those most vocal about insisting Mormons aren't Christians that are the primary equivocators. In one sense, the term "Christian" to them clearly is a label of sufficient doctrinal correctness. But they use their views about doctrinal correctness to imply, if not outright assert in some cases, that this makes Mormons sociologically distinct and possibly subversive. It's like a Fox News Commentator talking about who real Americans are.
I used to think that we should call anyone who self-describes as a Christian and holds the figure Jesus Christ and purported teachings from/about him central to their religion a Christian. Now, I'm more inclined to view religious categories in terms of evolved cultural taxonomy and place less stock in self-description. But in both cases I think Mormons are fine to be considered within the Christian family of religions.
I think it is those most vocal about insisting Mormons aren't Christians that are the primary equivocators. In one sense, the term "Christian" to them clearly is a label of sufficient doctrinal correctness. But they use their views about doctrinal correctness to imply, if not outright assert in some cases, that this makes Mormons sociologically distinct and possibly subversive. It's like a Fox News Commentator talking about who real Americans are.
I used to think that we should call anyone who self-describes as a Christian and holds the figure Jesus Christ and purported teachings from/about him central to their religion a Christian. Now, I'm more inclined to view religious categories in terms of evolved cultural taxonomy and place less stock in self-description. But in both cases I think Mormons are fine to be considered within the Christian family of religions.
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dogmatic wrote:This has been Mormons doctrine from the beginning that's why your prophets are ordained as kings if this world. Just like Satan is the king of this world. You cam have this world.
Thanks!
But, in that case, since you're willing to give us the world -- which is very kind of you, by the way, though it won't ultimately save you -- I don't quite understand why you object to our campaign to elect Mitt Romney as part of our plan for world domination.[/quote]
Wow. In public you just mocked me and had a spirit of contention. Should I bring up your laws? You have just broken your doctrine of salvation to obey all ordineces and laws of the gospel. And good luck with forgiveness for this sin you just committed online your prophets are clear that it might be a month week or years before you are forgiven. Mabye it will take blood atonment. How would anyone know when Christ the sin janitor takes over for your flawed sinful nature. And if you mock someone again all your sins of mockery will fall back on your plate because you didn't truly repent. I advise you to get on your knees and beg for what you just did.
..must make sacrifice of his own life to atone. for the blood of Christ alone under certain circumstances will not avail." - Bruce R. McConkie
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, … Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man (a.k.a., Jesus) will be forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32).
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, … Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man (a.k.a., Jesus) will be forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32).
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dogmatic wrote:
This has been Mormons doctrine from the beginning that's why your prophets are ordained as kings if this world. Just like Satan is the king of this world. You cam have this world.
I only quote from your prophets about thier dreams of world domination. And Joseph smith and his little society for political control. Will you as a Mormon again as every Mormon must do throw your own prophets uder the bus to to comply with your new "want to be a Christian cause thier so cool" doctrine.
..must make sacrifice of his own life to atone. for the blood of Christ alone under certain circumstances will not avail." - Bruce R. McConkie
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, … Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man (a.k.a., Jesus) will be forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32).
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, … Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man (a.k.a., Jesus) will be forgiven (Matthew 12:31-32).
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I see clarity is only important where the question of FLDS is concerned, when it come to Christianity it's time to muddy the waters with yes we believe that too.
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dogmatic, there may be somebody here who is interested in going back and forth with you, but, alas, I'm not the guy.
It concerns me that I agree with EA on something, but I do agree with him on this.
Yeah. You just can't trust people like Juan Williams, Bob Beckel, and Pat Caddell.
That's still my position, and it seems to me a pretty good one.
Second time in one post. I'm genuinely concerned.
EAllusion wrote:I think it is those most vocal about insisting Mormons aren't Christians that are the primary equivocators. In one sense, the term "Christian" to them clearly is a label of sufficient doctrinal correctness. But they use their views about doctrinal correctness to imply, if not outright assert in some cases, that this makes Mormons sociologically distinct and possibly subversive.
It concerns me that I agree with EA on something, but I do agree with him on this.
EAllusion wrote:It's like a Fox News Commentator talking about who real Americans are.
Yeah. You just can't trust people like Juan Williams, Bob Beckel, and Pat Caddell.
EAllusion wrote:I used to think that we should call anyone who self-describes as a Christian and holds the figure Jesus Christ and purported teachings from/about him central to their religion a Christian.
That's still my position, and it seems to me a pretty good one.
EAllusion wrote:Now, I'm more inclined to view religious categories in terms of evolved cultural taxonomy and place less stock in self-description. But in both cases I think Mormons are fine to be considered within the Christian family of religions.
Second time in one post. I'm genuinely concerned.