Fox News on Warren Jeffs Trial

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Re: Fox News on Warren Jeffs Trial

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moksha wrote:Is there any chance of you being called as an expert witness in the Jeffs trial?

I certainly hope not.

And I doubt it.

The Mitchell trial, although federal, was in Utah. This Jeffs trial will be in Texas.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:I said that I'm probably going to write something on the topic within the next six months or so.

Which means that I'm probably going to write something on the topic within the next six months or so.

So, since I'm probably going to write something on the topic within the next six months or so, you probably shouldn't conclude too confidently that I can't say anything about it.

Because, don't forget, I'm probably going to write something on the topic within the next six months or so.


Then I would think someone who plans on writing on this topic in the next six months might actually have an idea of what to say. Unless of course you actually have only thought you need to come up with something, but have not yet got there. :)
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moksha wrote:Is there any chance of you being called as an expert witness in the Jeffs trial?


Don't expect the LDS Mormon church to allow any member, it exerts control over, to testify at the Jeffs trial for one simple and obvious reason: "cross examination under oath!" The similarities between the two faiths would be put in the national spot light! Romney would be sunk.
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Themis wrote:Then I would think someone who plans on writing on this topic in the next six months might actually have an idea of what to say. Unless of course you actually have only thought you need to come up with something, but have not yet got there. :)

I have a pretty good idea of what to say. That's what gave me the idea of writing about the subject sometime over the next six months.

Joey wrote:Don't expect the LDS Mormon church to allow any member, it exerts control over, to testify at the Jeffs trial for one simple and obvious reason: "cross examination under oath!" The similarities between the two faiths would be put in the national spot light! Romney would be sunk.

Several here speculated at the time whether I would be allowed to testify against Mitchell, that I had been ordered to testify for Mitchell, that the Church had told me what to say, that the Brethren were micromanaging the trial, that I would never be permitted by the Church to testify, that the Church had ordered me to sabotage the prosecution, and so on and so forth.

It was all absurd and rather paranoid nonsense, just as this is.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Themis wrote:Then I would think someone who plans on writing on this topic in the next six months might actually have an idea of what to say. Unless of course you actually have only thought you need to come up with something, but have not yet got there. :)

I have a pretty good idea of what to say. That's what gave me the idea of writing about the subject sometime over the next six months.


Of course you do. This is why you can't come up with anything, not unlike you substance-less assertions about the Book of Abraham on the other thread. LOL
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Themis wrote:Of course you do. This is why you can't come up with anything, not unlike you substance-less assertions about the Book of Abraham on the other thread. LOL

You can read the article when it appears and judge for yourself.

In the meantime, though, juvenile taunting isn't going to do you much good.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Joey wrote:Don't expect the LDS Mormon church to allow any member, it exerts control over, to testify at the Jeffs trial for one simple and obvious reason: "cross examination under oath!" The similarities between the two faiths would be put in the national spot light! Romney would be sunk.

Several here speculated at the time whether I would be allowed to testify against Mitchell, that I had been ordered to testify for Mitchell, that the Church had told me what to say, that the Brethren were micromanaging the trial, that I would never be permitted by the Church to testify, that the Church had ordered me to sabotage the prosecution, and so on and so forth.

It was all absurd and rather paranoid nonsense, just as this is.


Provo,

Unless you are admitting that Mitchell's doctrine had common ground w Mormon doctrine, your response makes no sense at all.  Not unusual for you but it's really apple and oranges.  

The LDS Mormon church is worried about this Jeffs trial as well it should be.  He and Smith are carbon copies in their lives and actions.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Themis wrote:Of course you do. This is why you can't come up with anything, not unlike you substance-less assertions about the Book of Abraham on the other thread. LOL

You can read the article when it appears and judge for yourself.

In the meantime, though, juvenile taunting isn't going to do you much good.


You seem to be the only one being juvenile. This is not the first time you have made assertions without backing it up. Saying your going to write some article to many times is an excuse not to back it up. Will is famous around here for that. If you are going to dispute something one says then you should at least provide some substance here and now why they are wrong, and not try and get out of it by saying you are going to write about it later. You already said you have some ideas on what to write, so you should be able to provide something. Don't blame us for calling you to back up what you assert.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:During my preparations for testifying in the Brian David Mitchell trial, I read very extensively on so-called "Mormon fundamentalism." I think you're completely wrong.


Not poking at you, just interested. In what major ways are the flds's way of living and worshiping different than say the BY era? On the surface it would seem they much closer match the worldview/lifestyle/religion of that era than the LDS church of today.
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RockSlider wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:During my preparations for testifying in the Brian David Mitchell trial, I read very extensively on so-called "Mormon fundamentalism." I think you're completely wrong.


Not poking at you, just interested. In what major ways are the flds's way of living and worshiping different than say the BY era? On the surface it would seem they much closer match the worldview/lifestyle/religion of that era than the LDS church of today.


I have tried to get him to say something. He seems a little sensitive to my joking about his avoidance on this issue. For me it gets a little tiring when he comes into a thread just to assert something and then does not want to elaborate about it.
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