"The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."
In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.
The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.
Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is "not much"). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.
Wow. More stuff by the fine folks from the Heartland Institute. And here, I was expecting World Net Daily. Oh yeah, they're the same. Take care, BC.
Good science that. Peer reviewed even. But you apparently didn't look at the other link which allows you to see what the researchers themselves are saying.
Off topic: BC, I didn't ever see how your sister did in her contest. Did she win?
Wow. More stuff by the fine folks from the Heartland Institute. And here, I was expecting World Net Daily. Oh yeah, they're the same. Take care, BC.
Good science that. Peer reviewed even. But you apparently didn't look at the other link which allows you to see what the researchers themselves are saying.
All 'good science' is peer reviewed, these days.
Hmm. At your suggestion, I scanned Spencer and Braswell's actual paper and will read it more carefully later. (Braswell's from my undergraduate alma mater: How can I resist?) I didn't get the impression that it concluded what the article implied. Will see later.
This new data should take the brakes off not cutting down the rain forests. With less oxygen, how could there possibly be more carbon dioxide unless you are playing some percentage racket and own shares in Green Peace. Talk about those liberal conflicts of interest!
bcspace wrote: Good science that. Peer reviewed even. But you apparently didn't look at the other link which allows you to see what the researchers themselves are saying.
You wasted my time. Someone should 'peer review' your Heartland Institute dude.
Roy Spencer is quite a character. He is driven by the belief that the earth has low climate sensitivity to various variable changes because God wouldn't create a world so easily messed with. It's easy enough to look up responses to his arguments over the years that serve this end.
EAllusion wrote:Roy Spencer is quite a character. He is driven by the belief that the earth has low climate sensitivity to various variable changes because God wouldn't create a world so easily messed with. It's easy enough to look up responses to his arguments over the years that serve this end.
I appreciate the heads up. I think I've read of him before--but wasn't aware this was the same fellow.