Question for the Atheists.

[_mentalgymnast]

Do you believe in them or not?

Like I said, I haven't made a choice one way or the other to believe in them or not. It sounds like you're trying to force a choice one way or the other.

Regards,
MG

[_Fence Sitter]

Do you believe in them or not?

Like I said, I haven't made a choice one way or the other to believe in them or not. It sounds like you're trying to force a choice one way or the other.

Regards,
MG

I can't force you to do anything. I suspect you reject any other God but your own and I also suspect you have no better reason for belief in your God than they do in theirs. Am I wrong?

[_malkie]

Do you believe in them or not?

Like I said, I haven't made a choice one way or the other to believe in them or not. It sounds like you're trying to force a choice one way or the other.

Regards,
MG

But you could choose to believe, right?

[_Dr. Shades]

MG, you said that you chose to disbelieve in Santa Claus when you got a little more mature.

Well, when you got a little more mature, why didn't you choose to continue believing in him instead of choosing to disbelieve in him? You know, the same way you did with God?

[_mentalgymnast]

I can't force you to do anything. I suspect you reject any other God but your own and I also suspect you have no better reason for belief in your God than they do in theirs. Am I wrong?

OK, I'll play. Let's reverse engineer again as I did earlier in the thread. Here we are as humans on this earth. Two options. We're here by chance or we're here by design. I choose design. In choosing design I choose a creator/god who is responsible for humans on the earth.

At this point I have a question for you before I can go any further.

How much can you tell me about Brahman or any of the Eastern religion deities in respect to their nature, their being, their attributes?

I'll get back with you after I hear from you or as soon as I can get around to it. I've been in and out all day and into the evening.

Regards,
MG

[_mentalgymnast]

MG, you said that you chose to disbelieve in Santa Claus when you got a little more mature.

Well, when you got a little more mature, why didn't you choose to continue believing in him instead of choosing to disbelieve in him?

Because of the information that I had processed and assimilated.

You know, the same way you did with God?

So In other words's, why didn't I or why haven't I to this point chosen to disbelieve in God rather than believe with the information that I have processed and assimilated?

Well, because as I've processed and assimilated more information I've become more, rather than less, convinced that there is a creator/god responsible for humans on earth.

Make sense? If not, let me know.

Regards,
MG

[_mentalgymnast]

What is it about an all powerful being that some how make the story more believable than a child's fairy tale?

And I ask the question, "Why is it so difficult to believe in an all powerful god/being who created and is responsible for human beings on earth? And as a corollary, that we are created in the image of God?

What's the big deal here?

Why are we constantly comparing a creator/god to characters in fairy tales and the good tooth fairy, easter bunny, etc.? It's like we're saying a god/creator can't exist because the tooth fairy and her imaginary friends won't let him. Like they're real or something. C'mon.

Letting imaginary childhood characters and spaghetti monsters get in the way and even playing a part in convincing us one way or the other in regards to belief or non-belief in a creator/god responsible for humans on earth is...silly. Almost childish in some respects.

For one thing, it's too important of a quest, the search for God, to let our imaginary friends throw us off track.

Regards,
MG

[_mentalgymnast]

But you could choose to believe, right?

Yes.

Did I fall into a trap?

Regards,
MG

[_Bond James Bond]

Knowing that we are limited to our five senses in determining what is real and what is not, what is true and what is not, what we can know and what we cannot, and so forth, how can you know for a fact that a God doesn't exist? The evidence that you rely on is restricted/limited by the filtering system of your five senses.

How can you be so sure?

Regards,
MG

I can't know since proving a negative is impossible beyond all possible doubt. But I've seen no evidence of God so so far I'm an atheist. I was taught the Bible stories and tried to belief, but no evidence or personal experience of the divine leaves me without belief. But I don't have a willful disbelief. I simply don't think about the issue, too much actual stuff to ponder to think about to ponder something I have no evidence of.

[_mentalgymnast]

But you could choose to believe, right?

Yes.

Did I fall into a trap?

Regards,
MG

Predators. You have to be careful around these parts. <g>

Regards,
MG