Blixa wrote:The last time I was home in Salt Lake, I stayed with my parents and used to take long walks around the old neighborhood. Our ward house is next to the elementary school; both places were significant to my early years so I visited their grounds often. One Sunday I watched people going to meetings and it was very alien to me: the "uniform" of white shirts and dark slacks, the carrying of scriptures. None of that was part of pre-correlation Sunday School.
I would've liked to slip in and look around, both to see what had changed in the interior design (for my own nostalgic purposes, I hoped nothing had) and to see what the services were like. Unfortunately, I know that Mormon service is not particularly made for anonymous drop-ins, so I never did.
I grew up in So Cal about the same time Blixa and I remember the white shirt uniforms even back then, along with carrying scriptures. I remember how much I hated (still do) wearing a suit and tie. I also remember going to meeting three times on Sundays. Priesthood in the morning, then Sunday School and then back for the every boring Sacrament meeting. At least they have managed to combine those three redundant meetings into one. (Why do we have both a Primary and a Sunday School? Why are there both home teachers and visiting teachers?. Why do we have Youth organization and Priesthood organization for the youth? )
I think were I dressed properly I would feel comfortable dropping in on almost any meeting, of course if I were dressed properly (suit and tie) I would automatically be uncomfortable.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Fence Sitter wrote: I grew up in So Cal about the same time Blixa and I remember the white shirt uniforms even back then, along with carrying scriptures. I remember how much I hated (still do) wearing a suit and tie. I also remember going to meeting three times on Sundays. Priesthood in the morning, then Sunday School and then back for the every boring Sacrament meeting. At least they have managed to combine those three redundant meetings into one. (Why do we have both a Primary and a Sunday School? Why are there both home teachers and visiting teachers?. Why do we have Youth organization and Priesthood organization for the youth? )
I think were I dressed properly I would feel comfortable dropping in on almost any meeting, of course if I were dressed properly (suit and tie) I would automatically be uncomfortable.
So the Holladay 19th was just iconoclastic? Huh, in a way its believable.
Here are my brothers and I in 1970 just back from Sunday school. It's a pretty accurate example of local dress at the time. (The masks were only worn for the photo, we were not that apostate!)
Take a quick look, I'm taking the picture down after a while...
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Fence Sitter wrote: I grew up in So Cal about the same time Blixa and I remember the white shirt uniforms even back then, along with carrying scriptures. I remember how much I hated (still do) wearing a suit and tie. I also remember going to meeting three times on Sundays. Priesthood in the morning, then Sunday School and then back for the every boring Sacrament meeting. At least they have managed to combine those three redundant meetings into one. (Why do we have both a Primary and a Sunday School? Why are there both home teachers and visiting teachers?. Why do we have Youth organization and Priesthood organization for the youth? )
I think were I dressed properly I would feel comfortable dropping in on almost any meeting, of course if I were dressed properly (suit and tie) I would automatically be uncomfortable.
So the Holladay 19th was just iconoclastic? Huh, in a way its believable.
Here are my brothers and I in 1970 just back from Sunday school. It's a pretty accurate example of local dress at the time. (The masks were only worn for the photo, we were not that apostate!)
Take a quick look, I'm taking the picture down after a while...
For some reason I'm startled by your brothers "tie", it's so .... Austin Powers, I would never have pictured it on a kid. :)
Didn't the deacons wear white shirts and ties to pass the sacrament? Maybe I am just remembering what I had to wear not everyone else.
Seems to me, when I go to church now, that dress standards have relaxed quite a bit. Tennis shoes would not have been allowed back then and dress lines certainly have gone up. We had suits and ties for my boys to wear also. (85 through 2004ish),
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
Blixa - thanks for the pic. That's great! Nobody in YM said anything to you about short skirts?
Blixa wrote:Hermes, *sigh*
Is that a sigh with your eyelashes blinking or a sigh with eyes rolling?
Because if it was a eye roll - sigh package thing, I would need to interject with a comment about the optional McQueen Sunday dress:
I'm not sure I like that as much.
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Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
stemelbow wrote:1970 Blixa=Very pretty girl. I'm glad I saw it before the picture was taken down.
Don't feel bad, Zeezrom, its hard to go back to church each Sunday for me.
Even on my mission (a highly successful and enjoyable one) Sunday meetings were the thing I looked forward to the least.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
