It's hard to go back

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why me wrote:I think that his kids haven't gone to church for a while. And zee has been their teacher in the meantime. No wonder the kids are crying. Freedom to do what one wishes on a sunday would do that to any kid who has to go to a church which daddy doesn't believe in anymore.


I don't think I've ever met a child who looked forward to going to church. A lot of adults in the LDS church feel the same way.
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why me wrote:I think that his kids haven't gone to church for a while. And zee has been their teacher in the meantime. No wonder the kids are crying. Freedom to do what one wishes on a sunday would do that to any kid who has to go to a church which daddy doesn't believe in anymore.

The kids just want the same freedom to avoid LDS church services that you enjoy Why me.
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why me wrote:
Blixa wrote:
I would've liked to slip in and look around, both to see what had changed in the interior design (for my own nostalgic purposes, I hoped nothing had) and to see what the services were like. Unfortunately, I know that Mormon service is not particularly made for anonymous drop-ins, so I never did.


Fear of catching the spirit? I wouldn't be afraid if I were you. You should have dropped in instead of projecting what if's. You may have been surprised.

Really?
Really?
Really?
Really?

This is the voice experience?
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A little update.

We sat the kids down for a family meeting last night. I brought up the fact that we are all going to church next week. All of them except the smallest guy yelled out in great protest. Once again, we had one in tears then two others looked as if the world was about to end. What could I do. I'm committed, dammit. So I held my ground and told them to suck it up because we are doing it. We wouldn't have any of their protests. The decision has been made. It's better now than Sunday morning at 8:30.

Thanks,

Zee.
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Drive straight to the ice cream parlor afterwards!!!
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just me wrote:Drive straight to the ice cream parlor afterwards!!!

Thanks for the most excellent advice, Just Me.
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oh, and yes, I'm nervous to show up with a beard...

And I'm wondering if I should put a t-shirt on under my white shirt to look like everyone else...

Oh the peer pressures of religion!
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just me wrote:Drive straight to the ice cream parlor afterwards!!!


When I was a young boy, my father would take us to get fresh bagels from the Jewish bakery down the street from our chapel after church on Sundays. We would say, "Dad, we're not supposed to shop on the Sabbath." He would always reply, "Yes, but they're Jewish, so it's not their Sabbath!"
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malkie wrote:
why me wrote:Fear of catching the spirit? I wouldn't be afraid if I were you. You should have dropped in instead of projecting what if's. You may have been surprised.

Really?
Really?
Really?
Really?

This is the voice experience?


Since you're so concerned, whyme, I didn't want to be singled out for the questions I'm sure any sudden new face, especially one dressed in shorts and a t-shirt, would garner. And that's ok, I can understand both the desire to welcome a new comer and/or the need to just keep an eye on who's wandering in. My decision was not based on any "fear," but on a sense of what was appropriate.
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Runtu wrote:
why me wrote:I think that his kids haven't gone to church for a while. And zee has been their teacher in the meantime. No wonder the kids are crying. Freedom to do what one wishes on a sunday would do that to any kid who has to go to a church which daddy doesn't believe in anymore.


I don't think I've ever met a child who looked forward to going to church. A lot of adults in the LDS church feel the same way.


Similar to Miss Cleo I think every LDS ward has the Stepford Family". The kids are perfectly dressed and behaved (all 7 of them), each one plays a musical instrument and love to perform in front of an audience, they always do their seminary homework, scriptures are open to the proper place during sacrament talks, talks are not read and are given looking directly at the audience and so on and so on.

I am sure these children exist because every Sunday I was asked by my wife why our boys couldn't act like them.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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