zeezrom wrote: Oh well. Yesterday, I did races with my 2-yr old and jumped on the trampoline during church hours. .
And people are wondering about why the kids are crying about going to church next sunday? I think that I now know the reason.
I remember when I was a young catholic boy heading up the hill to go to church. I would always have a nice suit on and even though the mass was not three hours, it still was a chore to sit in mass in complete silence without moving one's head. And then came catechism after mass. If my dad would have said, why me you no longer have to go to mass or catechism I would have jumped for joy and if dad would be outside playing with me or if I were free do spend that morning playing with my soldiers and then a few weeks later I was told that I had to go back to church by an unbelieving father, I would have screamed and hollered too. Too much fun on sunday to be forced back to mass.
Your poor wife must be shaking her head and wondering just how it all came to this.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
SithLord wrote: My oldest child goes to church probably twice a month by herself because she wants to. Her parents and siblings haven't been in more than 2 years, but she's still active. We're very firm and vocal about our lack of belief in all things Mormon, but have allowed her to choose her path and support her in the activities she chooses to participate in.
I think that your child would be more free if you didn't share with her your very firm and vocal lack of belief in all things Mormon when she wants to attend church. Who would want that in their lives? Best to be silent and let her go in peace.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
just me wrote:Drive straight to the ice cream parlor afterwards!!!
Yea, that will send a wonderful message. And zee can also buy his believing wife a huge ice cream cone. If one is going to flout breaking the commandments and still force their kiddies to church, the reaction of the children will be negative.
But this is not about buying ice cream on a sunday but zee's influence on the kids in causing a negative reaction in the kids about church.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Blixa wrote: Since you're so concerned, whyme, I didn't want to be singled out for the questions I'm sure any sudden new face, especially one dressed in shorts and a t-shirt, would garner. And that's ok, I can understand both the desire to welcome a new comer and/or the need to just keep an eye on who's wandering in. My decision was not based on any "fear," but on a sense of what was appropriate.
I think that you have over analysed the situation. When an inactive person comes back in shorts and t-shirt, no one really cares about attire. If you were to say to them that you are inactive but just wanted to see the old ward, I do believe that they would have been very friendly with you in your attire. But since I never wear a white shirt and look like a Mormon when I attend church, no one seems to mind. I just think that you are overplaying reactions and appropriateness
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
I can't go to a Mormon meeting without having nothing but anxiety to get the hell out as fast as I can. For a long time, I had a recurring dream where I was inside the Mormon church from my adolescent years, and couldn't get out. Every time I tried to leave, some Mormon guy in the Mormon uniform would block the door.
I went back to that church a few months back because a family gathering was in the cultural hall. I wandered around the hallways of my nightmares and they were different than I remember them. The recurring dream stopped. :-)
Being a Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction -Pope Benedict XVI
As you know zee I am not an active member. When I was married, I would attend sacrament meeting with the wife and kids and then go for a nice walk during the next two meetings. I would go and sit on a bench and read a book. Or just enjoy the sights around me as I took my walk. Or I would meet a good woman friend and have a nice chat. And then, I woud return to get the wife and kids. But I never said negative things about church because I didn't have that many negative things to say and I respected my wife's belief system and her wanting to raise the kids in the LDS church. But I did do my routine every sunday.
I think that I did the best solution.
My point: if the disbelieving hubby or disbelieving wife has negative things to say about church, it should not be done infront of the kids if one spouse still wants to take them to church. it just poisons the well a little. I have always been supportive of my daughters serving their missions and I see the benefits of the faith in their lives. And they see in me a good father who has chosen a different way of living. We don't step on each other's toes.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
As you know zee I am not an active member. When I was married, I would attend sacrament meeting with the wife and kids and then go for a nice walk during the next two meetings. I would go and sit on a bench and read a book. Or just enjoy the sights around me as I took my walk. Or I would meet a good woman friend and have a nice chat. And then, I woud return to get the wife and kids. But I never said negative things about church because I didn't have that many negative things to say and I respected my wife's belief system and her wanting to raise the kids in the LDS church. But I did do my routine every sunday.
I think that I did the best solution.
My point: if the disbelieving hubby or disbelieving wife has negative things to say about church, it should not be done infront of the kids if one spouse still wants to take them to church. it just poisons the well a little. I have always been supportive of my daughters serving their missions and I see the benefits of the faith in their lives. And they see in me a good father who has chosen a different way of living. We don't step on each other's toes.
Man, you're a hypocritical douche. You've told Zee that he should make his kids life as boring as hell so that church will seem like a treat, and yet you couldn't sit through the three hour block yourself!
H.
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LDSToronto wrote:Man, you're a hypocritical douche. You've told Zee that he should make his kids life as boring as hell so that church will seem like a treat, and yet you couldn't sit through the three hour block yourself!