Darwin Was A Panic Ridden Genius Who Lied

[_Tarski]

If I can explain God and The Apocalrock to the novice why have Evolutionaries been unable to put forth a single cogent thought that holds any power to prove a point?

Your Apocalrock stuff is simple minded. On the other hand evolutionary biology and the other sciences of complexity are sophisticated and deal with concepts that one cannot grasp without training and effort.

You talk of cogent thoughts of evolutionary biologists but you don't understand their thoughts. Your understanding is possibly the worst we have seen on these boards to date.

I can fly swat down everything you put up.

Your performance so far says otherwise.

You all require that I submit before the fact.

Step one is to understand the evidence and the reasoning. The rest would take care of itself. You haven't taken step one.

Evolution is religion because you accept a euphoric ideal believing that you are ridding yourself of God.

Evolutionary science does not take as motivation any desire to rid oneself of God. The motivation is to understand what nature is telling us. It is a desire for truth. If God's role as creator seems diminished, then that is just a side effect and one that not everyone accepts anyway. Kenneth Miller is a good evolutionary biologist who also believes in God. How does he manage this? Again, you first have to understand what evolutionary science really claims and what the evidence is.

[_Quasimodo]

No I wont. Dog variety is of God. It is just dumb to line up all dog variety as if they all came from wolves. DUMB DUMB DUMB

It's not a debatable point, Night. Dogs ARE wolves. Read ANY article, book or website about the history of dogs. Do you think God created poodles in the Garden of Eden? Were there Bull dogs and Yorkshire terriers on the Ark?

Same with avian variety. Fish variety. HOW COME MANKIND DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH VARIETY AS DOGS.

There are many varieties of humans. Negroids, Asians, Europeans, Australoids and everything in between. The different races of people have the same relationship to each other as the different breeds of dogs. They are all the same species (they can successfully interbreed), but they look different because they were separated at some point and developed different features (evolution).

It's been recently found (through genetic analysis) that Neanderthals could and probably did interbreed with Homo sapiens (that's us).

Talk about selective breeding. Humans have been selecting all the while. So what happened. Where are the teany tiny furry humans and the Great Big hairless humans and the poofy humans. Come on. Were are my little pookins humans.

The relatively hairless humans are now call Native Americans and Asians. The little "pookin" humans (whatever that means) are called Pygmies in Africa. The light haired humans are called Nordic. The very dark humans are called Australian Aborigines.

Were all these on the Ark?

[_Nightlion]

I like that. I betray a serious ignorance of NOTHINGNESS. A "holy ghost" of science an intellectual apparition. I have sinned against it. Oh the perdition of it all.

Why did you start a thread about something you knew you knew nothing about? Did you really expect anyone to take you seriously?

What we have discovered by this is that Godless Science is a cult of the first magnitude.

1. They isolate you from all other considerations
2. They give you an enhanced self image that is only valid if you accept the program or scornfully ridicule you if you don't.
3. They psychologically manipulate you by saying aren't you glad to have electricity, cars, and what nots, THANKS BE TO SCIENCE.
God did not give you any of this. WE DID! [unholy Satanism]
4. They use social ostracism against their high minded academic achievements to shame people to feel ignorant if they do not accept the program.
5. They glorify founders as geniuses and tout the charisma of their luminaries.
6 Cult members are freed from the superstitious folly and get the rush of euphoric bliss thinking they are superior beings free from oppressive religious notions. (this alone is strong enough to be a cult if they did nothing else. But they are militant towards a goal that they falsely sanctify unto themselves as the purest pursuit of truth.
7. And behind the scenes somebody is laughing out loud reviling God vaunting himself able to veil the obviousness of God's creation and control and subject millions to do his bidding, by force of human pride, to wear out God with incessant blasphemies, and knowing full well the kool aid is to be poured out without mixture to fill the cup of abomination unto the end of the world.

[_Nightlion]

Most people who accept evolution do not believe that humans are the "highest form of life in the universe." Rather, all life is equally evolved and advanced simply because it survives.

This is what I was poorly trying to communicate.[/quote]

Bull crap. Obviously some are more equal than others.

Neither do I believe anyone who pretends to believe in God and accepts organic evolution. They just know not what they do. I mean they have failed to realize that they have repudiated God. Or they live in a fantasy world.

[_Nightlion]

I like that. I betray a serious ignorance of NOTHINGNESS. A "holy ghost" of science an intellectual apparition. I have sinned against it. Oh the perdition of it all.

For some reason, I'm not impressed by empty platitudes.

Platitude? Is that a marsupial?

[_Quasimodo]

Neither do I believe anyone who pretends to believe in God and accepts organic evolution. They just know not what they do. I mean they have failed to realize that they have repudiated God. Or they live in a fantasy world.

They aren't refuting God, Night. Just YOUR version of God. I guess you could say they are refuting you if they ever knew you existed (although that might be a little self centered).

Your version of the world is truly your's and you are welcome to it. You shouldn't be too quick to judge other peoples view.

[_Nightlion]

Having now very well proven Godless Science a cult I wonder if there is any shame felt by its pathetic victims.

How can we help to deprogram them?

Will a proof of God's existence be enough or will they have to be taught that God has told us that he has created worlds without number before they begin to realize evolution never happened?
The Apocalrock is proof sufficient once fairly considered. It is part of the Lord's strange act unto the convincing of the nations of the salvation of their God.

D&C 95: 4
4 For the preparation wherewith I design to prepare mine apostles to prune my vineyard for the last time, that I may bring to pass my strange act, that I may pour out my Spirit upon all flesh—

God told us that he would send us strong delusion that we would believe a lie, because they did not love the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. In other words; because the Gentiles rejected the Restoration and vaunted up their own righteousness, and are lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations and people of the whole earth, the scene was prepared and hatched from the very bowels of hell to make blind this world's modern culture touted as the highest advanced civilization known to ever exist. What folly. God shall have them in derision.

Psalms 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Verse three is about becoming a godless people.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Verse ten is about the Gentile's repudiation of the Restoration.

[_Nightlion]

Neither do I believe anyone who pretends to believe in God and accepts organic evolution. They just know not what they do. I mean they have failed to realize that they have repudiated God. Or they live in a fantasy world.

They aren't refuting God, Night. Just YOUR version of God.

I put no other God before the Lord. So this is meaningless to me.

With minds filled only with worldliness none can fathom that I have taken a different tack all my life and been led to know what millions half-heartily trying cannot find out. And because this knowledge is not apparent to you and to your world they THINK that such discoveries are impossible and nothing towards proving God is real. It is very real.

[_Quasimodo]

Having now very well proven Godless Science a cult I wonder if there is any shame felt by its pathetic victims.

I'm afraid that no one (besides you) feels you have proven anything.

How can we help to deprogram them?

Who is "we"? How does "we" feel justified in being able to "deprogram" anyone?

Will a proof of God's existence be enough or will they have to be taught that God has told us that he has created worlds without number before they begin to realize evolution never happened?
The Apocalrock is proof sufficient once fairly considered. It is part of the Lord's strange act unto the convincing of the nations of the salvation of their God.

D&C 95: 4
4 For the preparation wherewith I design to prepare mine apostles to prune my vineyard for the last time, that I may bring to pass my strange act, that I may pour out my Spirit upon all flesh—

God told us that he would send us strong delusion that we would believe a lie, because they did not love the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. In other words; because the Gentiles rejected the Restoration and vaunted up their own righteousness, and are lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations and people of the whole earth, the scene was prepared and hatched from the very bowels of hell to make blind this world's modern culture touted as the highest advanced civilization known to ever exist. What folly. God shall have them in derision.

Psalms 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Verse three is about becoming a godless people.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Verse ten is about the Gentile's repudiation of the Restoration.

Your quoting scripture to prove God's existence is like me quoting from "Lord of the Rings" to prove it's a real story. You will have to do better to be believed.

[Guest]

Having now very well proven Godless Science a cult I wonder if there is any shame felt by its pathetic victims.

I'm afraid that no one (besides you) feels you have proven anything.

How can we help to deprogram them?

Who is "we"? How does "we" feel justified in being able to "deprogram" anyone?

Will a proof of God's existence be enough or will they have to be taught that God has told us that he has created worlds without number before they begin to realize evolution never happened?
The Apocalrock is proof sufficient once fairly considered. It is part of the Lord's strange act unto the convincing of the nations of the salvation of their God.

D&C 95: 4
4 For the preparation wherewith I design to prepare mine apostles to prune my vineyard for the last time, that I may bring to pass my strange act, that I may pour out my Spirit upon all flesh—

God told us that he would send us strong delusion that we would believe a lie, because they did not love the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. In other words; because the Gentiles rejected the Restoration and vaunted up their own righteousness, and are lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations and people of the whole earth, the scene was prepared and hatched from the very bowels of hell to make blind this world's modern culture touted as the highest advanced civilization known to ever exist. What folly. God shall have them in derision.

Psalms 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Verse three is about becoming a godless people.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Verse ten is about the Gentile's repudiation of the Restoration.

Your quoting scripture to prove God's existence is like me quoting from "Lord of the Rings" to prove it's a real story. You will have to do better to be believed.

Quaz, I can see that I am getting to you as your quote feature is all bunged up.

Sorry about the scripture citing. You did not see me look away to the crowd for whom they were intended.