Jesus had "wounds" after He was resurrected. Does this mean that we shall carry our "death wounds" with us for eternity? If we are burned beyond recognition, will we appear like that for eternity in our resurrected bodies?
Christian: "Jesus is God, and God has no body, but He will have a body when He returns so we can recognize Him, but He has no body at all. Jesus will return in a wounded body so we can recognize Him, and He'll take us to heaven with Him, but He has no real body because God has no physical form."
Jehovah's Witness: "Jesus was crucified and died, and his physical body in the tomb, but what the disciples saw was Jesus' Spiritual Body, which is not a spirit, and not a physical body, but something in-between. The physical body was taken away to a secret location. He ascended with a Spiritual Body, and wounds were manifest to Thomas upon request only because Thomas asked to see them, otherwise the Spiritual Body has no defections. Jesus will return in a perfect Spiritual Body, and only manifest wounds upon request to those who wish to see them."
Mormon: "It's a mystery. Don't question the Brethren."
Catholic: "It's a mystery. Don't question the Holy Fathers."
Muslim: "Jesus was never on the Cross, but a man named Simon of Cyrenica took Jesus' place while Jesus escaped. The Gospel accounts are fabrications. Jesus ascended into heaven with a perfect body and will return with one and then marry, get old, and then die. Before He dies he will break all the crosses, kill all the swine, and become a follower of the Imaam Mehdi, thus showing all Christians they must too become Muslims."
Ahmadiyyah Muslim: "Jesus was crucified, but went into a coma. He was nursed back to health by two Essenes who took his body from the tomb. So, he was still alive in a wounded body when He appeared to his disciples. He and Mary later travelled to Kashmir to visit the 10 lost tribes, and they died there and were buried."
Baha'i: "Jesus was crucified, died, and was buried, and he is still buried in the place they put him. The Gospel accounts of his disciples "seeing" him after his death never really happened, but are just parables of his disciples realizes his spirit was deathless, although they never saw him or his spirit after he died. The part about Thomas feeling his wounds, it never happened but is just a non-historical parable that has metaphorical meanings. In other words, Thomas doubted, but then remembered that Jesus' soul was eternal, so a parable (fictional story) was written to make it appear that Thomas "felt" Jesus' wounds, but he never did. He was only imagining doing so in his mind. The part about his eating fish and honeycomb, is also just a parable and never actually happened. It never occurred in time and space."
Daheshist: Jesus had one physical body, born of Mary, and six Heavenly Bodies. It was a Heavenly Body that was crucified, not the physical body born of Mary. The last time the physical Jesus appeared to His disciples was at the last supper. After that, the physical Jesus left Jerusalem and eventually became known as Apollonius of Tyana, who much later died on Crete and was buried there. It was one of Jesus' heavenly personalities that was arrested, scorged, crucified, and arose from the dead and appeared to many; with the wounds. The Heavenly Bodies are not "eternal" but just temporary bodies. All of Jesus' six Heavenly Bodies appeared. One ascended into Heaven. One stayed in Jerusalem under the name Jesus son of Ananais, and was killed in 70 A.D. outside of Jersualem. Others went to other locations. The only "eternal" nature of Jesus is His soul which has no form., but He can "manifest bodies" anytime He wishes. We all have at least one "ethereal double" but Jesus had six of them.
Atheist: Jesus probably never existed, or, if he did, the accounts of his appearing to his disciples after his death is just a myth, just like the Book of Mormon stories, and were written by men who wanted power and money.
What do YOU agree with?
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Re: Jesus' wounds after the Resurrection
Interesting bunch of stories. The REAL story is that no man took his life from Christ, neither indeed could they, but he laid down his life when he was finished and had power to take it again. He took it again and it was NOT a resurrection by that power which others will be raised unto a perfect body, that not one hair is lost. By overcoming death of his own accord he obtained the power of the resurrection having overcome death.
The scars are part of his original body that he took back. In fact with that body he could be among us at anytime without his glory. There is a reason Christ does not resurrect with a perfect body. Naw. I am not going to get into that. I doubt anyone wants to know. Not really. I am such a bore.
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The scars are part of his original body that he took back. In fact with that body he could be among us at anytime without his glory. There is a reason Christ does not resurrect with a perfect body. Naw. I am not going to get into that. I doubt anyone wants to know. Not really. I am such a bore.
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Ok, you accept the Mormon position: "It's a mystery".
Nightlion wrote:Interesting bunch of stories. The REAL story is that no man took his life from Christ, neither indeed could they, but he laid down his life when he was finished and had power to take it again. He took it again and it was NOT a resurrection by that power which others will be raised unto a perfect body, that not one hair is lost. By overcoming death of his own accord he obtained the power of the resurrection having overcome death.
The scars are part of his original body that he took back. In fact with that body he could be among us at anytime without his glory. There is a reason Christ does not resurrect with a perfect body. Naw. I am not going to get into that. I doubt anyone wants to know. Not really. I am such a bore.
Look at my web site below and check out my paper on theology if you simply must know. The fireark.org site.
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daheshism wrote:Ok, you accept the Mormon position: "It's a mystery".
I thought I just explained it for you. How is that now a mystery still?
The Apocalrock Manifesto and Wonders of Eternity: New Mormon Theology
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Re: Jesus' wounds after the Resurrection
Magic!!!
About "death wounds" if we are resurrected with our bodies that we have now, what about the victims of Jeffrey Dahmer. Their bodies became part of him, so whose body are they?
About "death wounds" if we are resurrected with our bodies that we have now, what about the victims of Jeffrey Dahmer. Their bodies became part of him, so whose body are they?
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daheshism wrote:What do YOU agree with?
The LDS position which you got dead wrong. Nice try though.
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Re: Jesus' wounds after the Resurrection
Hey.
I'm a big damned retard. I'll just make up some crap, and see how it flies. You know. *wink* Because I feel the Spirt.
Idiots buy off on your story.
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I'm a big damned retard. I'll just make up some crap, and see how it flies. You know. *wink* Because I feel the Spirt.
Idiots buy off on your story.
V/R
Doc C
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.