What's the utility of faith?

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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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mormonx wrote:pull your skirt down, your ignorance is showing :)


Is this the sort of Christian "ass kicking" that can be expected at Premier? Third grade level taunts? :)
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Is it comforting to think that God knew the 12 year old girl that Warren Jeff's abused?
Did He care for her enough to prevent that abuse happening?
It's comforting to me that God is Justice and Mercy.

Again, what would you have Him do? This argument is completely void of any substantive thought, but it's an easy one to proffer and it makes you feel good. I guess that's enough.


God could be evil, doesn't mean he doesn't exist.

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I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Hoops wrote:

How odd it is that so many people who embrace faith still attempt to use faith as a pejorative.

You might wanna learn the difference between a pejorative and an observation.


False dichotomy.
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B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Hoops wrote:It's comforting to me that God is Justice and Mercy.
God is Justice and Mecry? How exactly does that work? How can he be both?
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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My perspective on the comfort value of faith is someone who has been both faithful and faithless. Faith didn't really add all that much comfort. Being someone with no faith now, I can see that.

Please, don't expect special consideration for your superstitious beliefs. All belief is open to criticism.

The status of your previous faith and what it is now has no bearing on someone else's.

I disputed the premise of your question. You are asking me to explain/defend something that I do not have.

Why would you think I do NOT expect criticism of my beliefs? I'm here aren't I? So put away that rather childish rejoinder.
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Mad Viking wrote:
Hoops wrote:It's comforting to me that God is Justice and Mercy.
God is Justice and Mecry? How exactly does that work? How can he be both?

Why can't He?
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Buffalo wrote:
mormonx wrote:pull your skirt down, your ignorance is showing :)


Is this the sort of Christian "ass kicking" that can be expected at Premier? Third grade level taunts? :)


haha... it was funny though.. admit it!
Here is my 5th grade assessment, in 2000 years, Mormons will still have no archeological, geographical, linguistics, external, historical, witness or any other kind of evidence. Say what you will about the evidence, but at least it's there to quibble over. only a third grader would compare the two in evidences.
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mormonx wrote:hahah... I probably would in my younger days, but I've learned not to argue with people that are out to win at any cost even denying the facts.
What facts have I denied?
mormonx wrote:You've already shown your deception by using straw men (your faith definition), moving boundaries (your terminology), emotional arguments that have nothing to do with the argument, meant to throw off the opponent on a rabbit trail... So, no thanks, I will refrain from kicking your ass.
You've mistaken me for someone else. I've done none of those things. You've said that atheists come here because we can't run with the big dogs from some other board. The very least you can do it back up your insults.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Is it comforting to think that God knew the 12 year old girl that Warren Jeff's abused?
Did He care for her enough to prevent that abuse happening?

It's comforting to me that God is Justice and Mercy.




Om my golly, did you just say it was God's justice that the 12 year old was abused? If your Mormon I guess the answer would be yes, because she got caught drinking coffee in the pre-exsitance.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Mad Viking wrote:God is Justice and Mercy? How exactly does that work? How can he be both?
Mad Viking wrote:Why can't He?
Justice demands that you pay the price for your crimes. Not someone else. You'll have to distort the definition of justice to have it any other way. If the definition of justice can be twisted and distorted in such a way that the demands of it are met by having a proxy individual pay the price for your crimes, why not substitute an action that is less offensive? Why not have the sins of men paid for by the rocks on the shores. The waves crash upon them and beat them to sand. Or even better, why not have the penalties paid for by the galaxies that are eaten up by black holes or obliterated by supernovas?
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