What's the utility of faith?

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_Buffalo
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Hoops wrote:
The burden of proof is yours. You're irritated because some of us require more that vague and ambiguous lines of reason.

Actually, no. The burden of proof is on the one who wrote the op. He made a statement representing faith as something that it is not. For him to have us address his question, he first has to show that a)he understands the terms, or b)that faith is, indeed, what he says it is.


Faith is belief in the absence of evidence. As evidence of this being true, I offer up the fact that you believe, and yet can offer no evidence that your god is real.

Your turn.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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In any case, you seem categorically unable to refute ANY atheist claims, old and tired or not.

Oh, sheesh! Really? Seriously? Or is this just another example?

What claims? Atheists don't make claims, they simply sit back, arms folded across their chests, and piously demand to be satisfied.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Mad Viking wrote:Oh... and by the way... you being a high school drop out is irrelevant. I think that a high school drop out is as capable as a PhD (which I am not) at dicussing such topics.


As an observant Mormon with no dog in this fight, MormonX is getting his butt handed to him by the atheists.


It wouldn't be so embarrassing if he would at least put up a fight.

Instead, he first picks the fight, and then keeps making excuses about how he left his boxing gloves at home.


All the Best!

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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Faith is belief in the absence of evidence.
False.
As evidence of this being true, I offer up the fact
This is not a fact, so immediately your assertions are suspect.
that you believe, and yet can offer no evidence that your god is real.
A working, organized universe.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Hoops wrote:What claims? Atheists don't make claims, they simply sit back, arms folded across their chests, and piously demand to be satisfied.
Which is what you do with regard to religious/god claims that you view as false.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Which is what you do with regard to religious/god claims that you view as false.

Can you site an example? or is this more dead fish for the clapping seals?
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Faith is belief in the absence of evidence. As evidence of this being true, I offer up the fact that you believe, and yet can offer no evidence that your god is real.

Your turn.


Oh my gosh, I can't believe you just did it again. your sneaky, Did you get that definition off google? I always like to look at how the actual word in all its facets, has been used throughout history, not the urban dictionary definition.

Websters Dictionary:
Faith - (1) Inward acceptance of a personality as real and trustworthy, of an idea as true and obligatory, or of a thing as beneficial; as faith in God; faith in one’s friend; faith in the moral law; faith in medicine. The word had originally a religious sense, and in its various uses generally retains a suggestion of emotional or practical quality. (2) The recognition of spiritual realities and moral principles as of paramount authority and supreme value. (3) Theological a. Historical faith or belief in the truthfulness and authority of the Scriptural narrative and teachings. b. Saving or practical faith or the acceptance by the intellect, affection and the will of God’s favor extended to man through Christ.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Hoops wrote:
Which is what you do with regard to religious/god claims that you view as false.

Can you site an example? or is this more dead fish for the clapping seals?
Odin.

EDIT. How cliché of me. A danish flag and a viking screen name and I come up with Odin. I'm so embarassed. OK, please let me switch my example of a god that you would sit back and demand evidence before accepting... to... Vishnu (did I spell that right?).
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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consiglieri wrote:
Mad Viking wrote:Oh... and by the way... you being a high school drop out is irrelevant. I think that a high school drop out is as capable as a PhD (which I am not) at dicussing such topics.


As an observant Mormon with no dog in this fight, MormonX is getting his butt handed to him by the atheists.


It wouldn't be so embarrassing if he would at least put up a fight.

Instead, he first picks the fight, and then keeps making excuses about how he left his boxing gloves at home.


All the Best!

--Consiglieri


haha.. Mormons always have dogs in the fight. of course I'm getting my but kicked, I refuse to debate on their grounds. They win by forfeit.
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Re: What's the utility of faith?

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Can you site an example? or is this more dead fish for the clapping seals?
Odin.[/quote]
So now you can show me where I have made a comment about this Norse god, or any Norse god, at any time, in any way, in all of my history on this earth.

Otherwise, you will have to agree that your comments are, indeed, dead fish for the clapping seals.
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