A church video fighting porn

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just me wrote:
Because according to reports I have heard from people in the know at church, 70% of ALL LDS couples have a porn addiction problem within the marriage.

It's "tearing" families apart. Men are being fired. It is an epidemic.


I hope you are kidding, I don't think this is true unless you define "porn addiction" as watching porn or being caught watching porn.

How would you define porn addiction? It is a very tricky thing to nail down.
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Longshot wrote:
just me wrote:
Because according to reports I have heard from people in the know at church, 70% of ALL LDS couples have a porn addiction problem within the marriage.

It's "tearing" families apart. Men are being fired. It is an epidemic.


I hope you are kidding, I don't think this is true unless you define "porn addiction" as watching porn or being caught watching porn.

How would you define porn addiction? It is a very tricky thing to nail down.


This is not a joke. This is the number being used in my stake. This is the number being thrown around by the woman who spends her days counseling for the church.

I didn't make it up, I am just reporting what I have been told.

It isn't about how *I* define porn addiciton. It is how the CHURCH defines it.
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Longshot wrote:I don't think this is true unless you define "porn addiction" as watching porn or being caught watching porn.


That is how the church defines porn addiction.
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There is a huge difference between watching porn every once and a while and being addicted to it, just like drinking.

ldsfaqs wrote: Since some 60% of Utah is not LDS (or inactive LDS) then clearly there are plenty of people to go online
for porn.


this stat being thrown around on this treah is backwards .

60% of people in Utah are Mormon, not the other way around.

And here are my references

http://www.rickross.com/reference/Mormon/mormon455.html

http://religions.pewforum.org/pdf/repor ... y-full.pdf

The Wikipedia article on Utah also has other references
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah
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Rambo wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWQ5dPeixdw&feature=share

Did anyone else throw up in their mouth after watching this?

Most married men I know watch porn and they seem to be good fathers and husbands. It's pretty sad that this video shows that you are a bad husband or father if you watch porn.

I've told some church members that I think it is a worse sin not to be a nice person than it is to watch porn. Most have disagreed with me. Although props to my Dad he agrees with me.


Not sure if a husband who is watching porn is a good husband, unless of course they have permission from their wives. And even then, it is extremely difficult for a wife to complete with a porn video where the scenes have been edited and cut.

Can a nice person watch porn when most porn is highly exploitive and the industry is not exactly moral?
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Rambo wrote:
Well yeah if porn is getting in the way of your sex life then you have a problem. Don't get me wrong there can be negative consequences to porn. Just like most things in life too much of one thing usually causes problems.


The problem with porn among teenagers is that they can not see the difference between porn and actual sex. Many teens may expect their girlfriend to do the things that they do in porn without realizing that for many women, what the porn movie does with sex may be disgusting for most women to do.
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Rambo wrote: Just like most things in life too much of one thing usually causes problems.


If porn is addicting for many people, too much of a good thing is just what they need for their fix. Once porn gets into the blood it is difficult to get it out of the blood. Thus, porn causes a problem and in fact, for porn addicts just seeing Playboys on the racks of stores can cause a relaspe and a temptation.
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why me wrote:
Rambo wrote: Just like most things in life too much of one thing usually causes problems.


If porn is addicting for many people, too much of a good thing is just what they need for their fix. Once porn gets into the blood it is difficult to get it out of the blood. Thus, porn causes a problem and in fact, for porn addicts just seeing Playboys on the racks of stores can cause a relaspe and a temptation.



Yes, I think rambo was saying that to much of anything can be an issue, including church.

One can be addicted to church and pleasing the lord. This addiction be be very disruptive to the family. But I think some would argue that just because some people can be addicted toot, does not mean it should be banded, or individuals be told they should feel guilty e e. When they are doing it responsibly or in small amounts.


I know way more families that have been torn apart because of church than because of porn, or even adultery.

All because the husband or wife does not believe in the church any more they are completely ostracized by their friends and family. They are still the same person ( some would argue a much better person, they now do the right thing because they think it is the right thing, and not because they get an reward for doing it, eternal salvation)
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Fiannan wrote:Just have to ask...when all these women we her about discovering porn on their husband's computer -- how long do they spend watching the movies themselves before going all "righteous indignation" on their husbands?

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It's funny, just last weekend my parents mentioned this HUGE problem in the church. They didn't have any stats, but they said it was clear that the brethren viewed this as a serious and significant problem. Even - shocked voice here - among MARRIED men.

In the same conversation, they mentioned that the brethren appear concerned that young men are delaying marriage. The speculation was that these two facts might be linked - significant porn use (and of course the act that tends to go with that, solo) and delaying marriage. In other words, young Mormon men might not be as sexually desperate as they used to be, which motivated them to marry at very young ages.
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