Buffalo wrote: Whether or not you think it's a sin, the way the church goes about it now just makes it worse. If porn is a problem, the church is exacerbating it. Hard and frequently, too. No lube, even.
All churches that I know of are against porn. The LDS church is no exception. It is also a family church and it considers porn to be a huge threat to the family, which it is. Most women do not want their husbands to view porn because it is in direct competition with them in the bedroom. So, it is a threat to the marriage.
Now for teenagers, they can not know that porn sex is only for the movies. What boys want their girlfriends to do is what they see in the movies, and this would not be very good for the teenage girl. And maybe teenage girls actually believe that they are required to do what is done in the movies. Not good.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Buffalo wrote: Whether or not you think it's a sin, the way the church goes about it now just makes it worse. If porn is a problem, the church is exacerbating it. Hard and frequently, too. No lube, even.
All churches that I know of are against porn. The LDS church is no exception. It is also a family church and it considers porn to be a huge threat to the family, which it is. Most women do not want their husbands to view porn because it is in direct competition with them in the bedroom. So, it is a threat to the marriage.
Now for teenagers, they can not know that porn sex is only for the movies. What boys want their girlfriends to do is what they see in the movies, and this would not be very good for the teenage girl. And maybe teenage girls actually believe that they are required to do what is done in the movies. Not good.
Actually, they don't even have to say it's okay. They just have to stop talking about it. Remove the shame, remove the problem.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Buffalo wrote: I realize you're a self-educated expert in porn and masturbation, but what I'm talking about is a real psychological effect. The church shoots itself in the foot by shaming these guys.
Actually, there is no shame in watching porn. However, since religlous people know that it is sin, they may feel remorse for watching it. And those who are not religious may feel that there is something wrong with porn since it has become very perverted over time. However, addiction can still happen. Once porn enters the bloodstream, it is very difficult to get out. It is all in the imaging that creates the addiction. Not the shame.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Buffalo wrote: Actually, they don't even have to say it's okay. They just have to stop talking about it. Remove the shame, remove the problem.
It is in the imaging. That is the problem. First, the women become instantly turned on in the porn scene. Then, she is very beautiful in the scene and wants it badly. Her all being wants to get off and the guy becomes the tool for doing this.
However, it is only in the movies. In actuality, the actors and actresses are finding it difficult to get hard and wet, lube is necessary and no one is really turned on. Such is life.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
MrStakhanovite wrote:WhyMe, you managed to bring this thread from mildly amusing to creepy in just a few posts.
Reality can be creepy. Posters were saying that the LDS church is over reaching the porn issue. I responded.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Buffalo wrote: Actually, they don't even have to say it's okay. They just have to stop talking about it. Remove the shame, remove the problem.
It is in the imaging. That is the problem. First, the women become instantly turned on in the porn scene. Then, she is very beautiful in the scene and wants it badly. Her all being wants to get off and the guy becomes the tool for doing this.
However, it is only in the movies. In actuality, the actors and actresses are finding it difficult to get hard and wet, lube is necessary and no one is really turned on. Such is life.
Yes, and in action movies you can't really shoot up 20 bad guys as you're diving sideways. So what?
Anyone else think that being creepy on MDB is Why Me's preferred way to get off?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Buffalo wrote: I realize you're a self-educated expert in porn and masturbation, but what I'm talking about is a real psychological effect. The church shoots itself in the foot by shaming these guys.
Actually, there is no shame in watching porn. However, since religlous people know that it is sin, they may feel remorse for watching it. And those who are not religious may feel that there is something wrong with porn since it has become very perverted over time. However, addiction can still happen. Once porn enters the bloodstream, it is very difficult to get out. It is all in the imaging that creates the addiction. Not the shame.
Sorry, you're wrong. Porn is much less interesting when you stop believing that it's shameful and that satan is trying to get you to watch it.
You'd think a pseudo-lapsed Mormon/Catholic would get the concept of forbidden fruit.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.