How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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_truth dancer
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Re: How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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Um, let's be real for a sec.

There were no gold plates to transport to Cumorah.

There is NO evidence of gold during Book of Mormon times in the Book of Mormon Mesoamerica location.

None.

Ask any reputable, knowledgeable, and honest apologist and he/she will confirm that there was no gold (in that time and location), out of which to make plates.

Just keeping it real! ;-)


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Re: How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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Nightlion wrote:Another interesting thing that bears investigation is just how so many species of animals and plants could be concentrated in the Amazon Basin. Especially since it was underwater for so long. It is as if a pristine preserve was established there by the Lord to do his handiwork. And we should see that as an obvious fact. Just by taking thought of it.


Darth J already proved conclusively that Zarahemla was located in Italy.
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Re: How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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Nightlion wrote: When Joseph and Oliver returned the plates they entered a dimensional portal where all the treasures where kept. That cave of wonders is not in today's Hill Cumorah near Palmyra, New York.


Ah, the old "dimensional portal" defense. I haven't heard that one in a while.

But how does that explain Zelph? http://www.mormonthink.com/zelph.htm
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Re: How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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Magic. He used magic.
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Re: How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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truth dancer wrote:Um, let's be real for a sec.

There were no gold plates to transport to Cumorah.

There is NO evidence of gold during Book of Mormon times in the Book of Mormon Mesoamerica location.

None.

Ask any reputable, knowledgeable, and honest apologist and he/she will confirm that there was no gold (in that time and location), out of which to make plates.

Just keeping it real! ;-)


~td~

Ms. TD, Zarahemla of Cajamarca, Peru is still the second leading gold producing city in the Western Hemisphere. Get out of Meso-America. The Book of Mormon happened in the Andes Mountains and Pacific sea coast from Chili to that lake in Venezuela.

Need I remind everyone that the Marana River (Sidon) flows North (as it must) near Cajamarca and then plunges down a gorge where tens of thousands of dead bodies could be handily disposed of.
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Re: How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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I just thought I would make these points before I mention that the Book of Mormon was sealed up unto the Lord according to the Title Page. This means that it abides in a dimension of Spirit where it can manifest anywhere the Lord sees fit.

Cool! Just like the Flying Spaghetti Monster! You can't prove he doesn't exist, so he does!
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I have no doubts whatsoever, if you believe in Jesus Christ everything is possible.

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I love the juxtaposition of these two statements.
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Re: How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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Equality wrote:
I just thought I would make these points before I mention that the Book of Mormon was sealed up unto the Lord according to the Title Page. This means that it abides in a dimension of Spirit where it can manifest anywhere the Lord sees fit.

Cool! Just like the Flying Spaghetti Monster! You can't prove he doesn't exist, so he does!


Look, not every damn thing has to stand on empirical proofs. The cave of wonders is just that. can't be anything else because it isn't. You got to take your proofs where they lay. Those things outside of proof hang between. I have prove Christ true. I can teach you how to do the same just as scientifically as you want. Will you work the data that guarantees the verifiable results? Why not? True religion, and not the sloppy hegemony of consensus pride, is a rigorous discipline that works on precise terms between man and God. It is not 'thank you Jesus' , or ' I believe on the name of Jesus, hallelujah! Or I bear my testimony that the Church is true and Spencer W Kimball is a prophet of God and I love my mommy and my dad and my sister and brothers. ITNOJC Amen.
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Re: How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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the cave of wonders. across the street from the fountain of youth in the city of gold.

everything doesn't require empirical proofs. things on maps, do. as do maps.
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Re: How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

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Equality wrote:
"As I say, it never ceases to amaze me how gullible some of our Church members are"
Harold B. Lee, "Admonitions for the Priesthood of God", Ensign, Jan 1973

1973?
He said his private opinion.

It is too old to be official/scripture/doctrinal/whatever.
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