It's only a matter of time

[_The Nehor]

I'm just going by what you said.

No, you're not.

The Book of Mormon account said Jesus was the one who killed the people with natural disasters.

No, it actually doesn't say that.

You say it's possible God might have arranged matters so that the destruction happened at just the right time - that would mean that god caused them to be wicked.

When I assaulted the man with a knife I was arrested because a policeman happened to be there waiting for me to attack someone with a knife (I had a history you see). That means the policeman caused the attack.

So which is it?

Still stuck on the false dichotomy.

Or do you have a third b***s*** theory?

Then you're calling anything other then your false dichotomy BS. I presume this is because your rather limited intellect is incapable of conceiving of other options. In which case, I quit. It's like trying to teach Calculus to a toddler.

See above poster.

[_Buffalo]

In other words, you've got nothing. Just as I thought. You lose!

Because you're too dense to understand the difference between God and little biting devils?

How are they conceptually different, Nehor? Why is positing god as an undetectable influencer of evolution different than positing invisible biting devils as undetectable influencers of earthquakes?

You have no response, otherwise you'd have given it already. :)

[_Buffalo]

The Book of Mormon account said Jesus was the one who killed the people with natural disasters.

No, it actually doesn't say that.

Once again Nehor shows that he isn't reading his scriptures.

3 Nephi 9

3 Behold, that great city Zarahemla have I aburned with fire, and the inhabitants thereof.

4 And behold, that great city Moroni have I caused to be asunk in the depths of the sea, and the inhabitants thereof to be drowned.

5 And behold, that great city aMoronihah have I covered with earth, and the inhabitants thereof, to hide their iniquities and their abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints shall not come any more unto me against them.

6 And behold, the city of Gilgal have I caused to be sunk, and the inhabitants thereof to be buried up in the depths of the earth;

7 Yea, and the city of Onihah and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of Mocum and the inhabitants thereof, and the city of aJerusalem and the inhabitants thereof; and bwaters have I caused to come up in the stead thereof, to hide their wickedness and abominations from before my face, that the cblood of the prophets and the saints shall dnot come up any more unto me against them.

You say it's possible God might have arranged matters so that the destruction happened at just the right time - that would mean that god caused them to be wicked.

When I assaulted the man with a knife I was arrested because a policeman happened to be there waiting for me to attack someone with a knife (I had a history you see). That means the policeman caused the attack.

Has nothing to do with your previous scenario. I'm going to stop asking if you're really this dumb, because I already know the answer.

Or do you have a third b***s*** theory?

Then you're calling anything other then your false dichotomy b***s***. I presume this is because your rather limited intellect is incapable of conceiving of other options.

I eagerly await your next BS hypothesis. :)

I quit.

I accept your surrender. Your intellectual inferiority is noted and you have my pity. :)

[_The Nehor]

How are they conceptually different, Nehor? Why is positing god as an undetectable influencer of evolution different than positing invisible biting devils as undetectable influencers of earthquakes?

Perhaps that God would have a reason to create the earth? Also, we have some idea of what we are talking about when we talk about God. Neither I nor you believe in or have any idea what would motivate these mythical invisible biting devils you invented. Are they hobbits?

You have no response, otherwise you'd have given it already. :)

No, I have many. I was hoping you could rub your two brain cells together and figure out the obvious by yourself. Once again my hopes for you are dashed.

[_Mad Viking]

Neither I nor you believe in or have any idea what would motivate these mythical invisible biting devils you invented.

Your disbelief does not preclude their existence. Neither does your lack of understanding with regard to their motives.

[_The Nehor]

You say it's possible God might have arranged matters so that the destruction happened at just the right time - that would mean that god caused them to be wicked.

When I assaulted the man with a knife I was arrested because a policeman happened to be there waiting for me to attack someone with a knife (I had a history you see). That means the policeman caused the attack.

Has nothing to do with your previous scenario. I'm going to stop asking if you're really this dumb, because I already know the answer.

Yes, it does. You see in both cases you assume that foreknowledge = causing the events you knew would happen.

I would recommend Blue's Clues and their games of "Which one is not like the other?" After you master those basic skills we can work our way up to analogy.

I eagerly await your next b***s*** hypothesis. :)

I haven't created one yet. So speaking of a "next" one is premature and idiotic.

I quit.

I accept your surrender. Your intellectual inferiority is noted and you have my pity. :)

Ah yes, I'm not sure if you are deliberately misunderstanding or pretending to be stupid to make yourself feel smart. Either one makes humiliates you even further.

To clarify, I did not give up on my argument. I gave up on your ability to reason. I don't have the patience to cope with your inappropriately smug middle-school level debating skills.

A flaw of mine I know. One day maybe I will develop said patience.

In the meantime, welcome to my foe list. If I don't respond to whatever you say in the future that is why.

Now back to your regularly scheduled Buffalo crowing over his imaginary victory. Hope someone enjoys it. :)

[_The Nehor]

Neither I nor you believe in or have any idea what would motivate these mythical invisible biting devils you invented.

Your disbelief does not preclude their existence. Neither does your lack of understanding with regard to their motives.

True but that is not what I was arguing.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

However I can't discourse intelligently about them. When speaking of God in terms of a specific theology (LDS here usually) then we know something of Him and His motives. It is His stated plan that He wants to create humanity and the things on this earth and intervene to fulfil his plan. Suggesting that he might step in and act to cause these results would make logical sense.

Now you could argue God does not exist which is fine. However you can't deny that if God (in LDS terms) does exist He would most likely act in that manner. This is the key difference.

Comparing that to these "devils" is mindless. We aren't talking about anything. We have no reason for why or how they would cause earthquakes. We don't even have even the faintest conception of what these "invisible biting devils" are.

The difference is clear.

[_schreech]

Comparing that to these "devils" is mindless. We aren't talking about anything. We have no reason for why or how they would cause earthquakes. We don't even have even the faintest conception of what these "invisible biting devils" are.

The difference is clear.

only in your mind...

Pele actually causes the earthquakes through gaseous volcanic explosions in order to chase "biting devils" back into the underworld and keep them from taking over her domain...The "pig-god", Kamapua, and Pele fight often and she covers the land with lava while he tries to extinguish her fires with rain and waves...Kamapua has quite a few "biting devils" under his control but, you are correct, they don't cause earthquakes...they are responsible for heavy rain and tsunami's....Pele causes earthquakes to keep Kamapua from raping her....

maybe instead of "biting devils", buffalo should have said "Pele"...Better now? or are you still going to miss his point completely?....

[_Hoops]

only in your mind...

Pele actually causes the earthquakes through gaseous volcanic explosions in order to chase "biting devils" back into the underworld and keep them from taking over her domain

I'd heard he was a good soccer player (before my time) but... wow!! He was that good?

[_schreech]

I'd heard he was a good soccer player (before my time) but... wow!! He was that good?

He was good, but somehow he still managed to get raped by pig-demons...should have retired sooner....