8.7 Million Species

[_Darth J]

If the flood is what caused dinosaurs to become extinct, why didn't pleisiosaurs survive?

Besides that one in Scotland, I mean?

[_Quasimodo]

If the flood is what caused dinosaurs to become extinct, why didn't pleisiosaurs survive?

Besides that one in Scotland, I mean?

:) !!!!!!!!!!

[_Hoops]

Quasimodo said land plants had to have been on the ark. The biblical record does not support that. So I asked if he/any knew the story at all. If you're going to disparage the account, you should at least know what it is.

[_Hoops]

I understand that seeds can survive in water for a long time. I should have been more specific in my response. Still, you're assuming that all the plants remained submerged for the entire flood. Not only is that unlikely, but the biblical record does not indicate that.

[Guest]

I understand that seeds can survive in water for a long time. I should have been more specific in my response. Still, you're assuming that all the plants remained submerged for the entire flood. Not only is that unlikely, but the biblical record does not indicate that.

What if the water is salt water? Even if *some* seeds could survive something like that it would take a long time for them to grow.

Oh, and it seems that since the fresh and salt water would get all mixed up that it would result in the earth being salted. It would take YEARS AND YEARS for the land to recover and be able to grow stuff.

How did Noah fit all the food to last ONE YEAR for the humans and all the animals on the ark? Oh, and fresh water. They would have needed hundreds of (thousands?) of gallons of fresh water PER DAY in order to survive.

Disclaimer: I'm not a scientist. I just play one on the internet.

[_Quasimodo]

I understand that seeds can survive in water for a long time. I should have been more specific in my response. Still, you're assuming that all the plants remained submerged for the entire flood. Not only is that unlikely, but the biblical record does not indicate that.

Sorry, I thought that the biblical record had it as at least forty days for the deluge and an unmentioned time for the waters to recede.

I don't think there are many seeds that would survive a long period under water.

Some will survive eons if they are dry (seeds found in Egyptian tombs that will still germinate after several thousand years).

Once wet though, they germinate and if they have no soil to grow in, they will perish.

Another experiment you could try. Drop seeds in a container of water. Check back in a month and see if any are viable.

[_DrW]

I understand that seeds can survive in water for a long time. I should have been more specific in my response. Still, you're assuming that all the plants remained submerged for the entire flood. Not only is that unlikely, but the biblical record does not indicate that.

Since the Old Testament is a set of myths, legends, fairy tales, and stories handed down for generations before being written down, it should not be referred to as a record. It is no such thing. In fact, there is no such thing as a Biblical record when it comes to the Old Testament.

[_Hoops]

The biblical record tells us that it rained for forty days, not that the earth was immediately and completely covered in water for forty days.

[_Quasimodo]

The biblical record tells us that it rained for forty days, not that the earth was immediately and completely covered in water for forty days.

OK, how long was it covered? It filled up (to cover all the lands) in forty days, how long was it until the tops of the mountains started to show?

[Guest]

I understand that seeds can survive in water for a long time. I should have been more specific in my response. Still, you're assuming that all the plants remained submerged for the entire flood. Not only is that unlikely, but the biblical record does not indicate that.

Sorry, I thought that the biblical record had it as at least forty days for the deluge and an unmentioned time for the waters to recede.

I don't think there are many seeds that would survive a long period under water.

Some will survive eons if they are dry (seeds found in Egyptian tombs that will still germinate after several thousand years).

Once wet though, they germinate and if they have no soil to grow in, they will perish.

Another experiment you could try. Drop seeds in a container of water. Check back in a month and see if any are viable.

Coconuts. Coconuts are well armored seeds that do quite well in water. They float, and if left to their own devices, will eventually germinate and produce little floating palm trees in warm weather. I find it amazing that they seem to be able to remain floating "palms up" even in the wind and waves. A few months after a hurricane or strong wind, we sometimes find little palm trees have made their way into the shallows along our lake shore.

The vast majority of seeds not adapted to water would simply become mush after a week or so, especially in salt water.