Will Mormons ever admit that Brigham was a false prophet?

[_schreech]

What do you belive or worship Schreech?

? - who cares? arent you the homophobe who hates Mormonism and homosexuals? If not, I apologize - just trying to keep the screen-names straight....

[_Joseph Antley]

Wow...so much substance...Yes, I agree that its embarrassing for you

You do understand that agreeing with something that you're pretending someone else said is an extremely immature debate tactic, right?

[_Kevin Graham]

Wow...so much substance...Yes, I agree that its embarrassing for you

You do understand that agreeing with something that you're pretending someone else said is an extremely immature debate tactic, right?

That's pretty much what DCP and Hamblin have been doing for days now over at MAD.

Heil Mitchell!

[_floatingboy]

knock it off, screech. you originally mentioned it as a joke, or at least a half-joke ("yeah, i went there"), but when he calls you out on it, you suddenly feel like you have to defend your stance? you know there's no real comparison between the two...no more than you can make between Hitler and any strong-willed leader. but being strong-willed does not equate to aggressively taking over neighboring countries and viciously enslaving/killing millions of people. get real. but i know you know this already.

[_Buffalo]

2 Peter 2
“But there were false prophets also among the people [of old], even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily [i.e., secretly] shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

“And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.” (2 Pet. 2:1–2.)

Isn't Adam-God considered a damnable heresy today?

http://LDS.org/general-conference/1999/ ... se+prophet

Beware of False Prophets and False Teachers
M. Russell Ballard
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

When we think of false prophets and false teachers, we tend to think of those who espouse an obviously false doctrine or presume to have authority to teach the true gospel of Christ according to their own interpretation. We often assume that such individuals are associated with small radical groups on the fringes of society. However, I reiterate: there are false prophets and false teachers who have or at least claim to have membership in the Church. There are those who, without authority, claim Church endorsement to their products and practices. Beware of such.

Of such President Joseph F. Smith warned when he spoke of the “proud and self-vaunting ones, who read by the lamps of their own conceit; who interpret by rules of their own contriving; who have become a law unto themselves, and so pose as the sole judges of their own doings”

Ruh roh.

This part doesn't bode well for apologists, either:

False prophets and false teachers are those who arrogantly attempt to fashion new interpretations of the scriptures to demonstrate that these sacred texts should not be read as God’s words to His children but merely as the utterances of uninspired men, limited by their own prejudices and cultural biases. They argue, therefore, that the scriptures require new interpretation and that they are uniquely qualified to offer that interpretation.

...

However, in the Lord’s Church there is no such thing as a “loyal opposition.” One is either for the kingdom of God and stands in defense of God’s prophets and apostles, or one stands opposed. And as Lehi of old counseled his sons, so this counsel is true for us today:

[_schreech]

You do understand that agreeing with something that you're pretending someone else said is an extremely immature debate tactic, right?

I agreed with this statement:

"I would be very embarrassed had I compared Brigham Young to Adolf Hitler."

I can understand why that would be embarrassing for you to compare and acknowledge any similarities between your "prophet" and adolf Hitler...Remember, I made the comparison based on your statement that BY was an "unparalleled leader"...what exactly is embarrassing about acknowledging that both BY and Hitler were "unparalleled leaders"? don't get butt-hurt because the same things that you revere BY for (at least in this thread) can easily be applied to genocidal, power-hungry maniacs like Hitler, etc....

[_KimberlyAnn]

That's pretty much what DCP and Hamblin have been doing for days now over at MAD.

Heil Mitchell!

No kidding. When they're not busy agreeing with something they're pretending someone else said, they're about the business of answering the questions people should have asked.

KA

PS. Floatingboy, I don't know your musical tastes, but it stands to reason that you might like a little Floating Action: 50 Lashes; Don't Stop Loving Me Now. I found them via Dr. Dog.

[_schreech]

knock it off, screech. you originally mentioned it as a joke, or at least a half-joke ("yeah, i went there"), but when he calls you out on it, you suddenly feel like you have to defend your stance? you know there's no real comparison between the two...no more than you can make between Hitler and any strong-willed leader. but being strong-willed does not equate to aggressively taking over neighboring countries and viciously enslaving/killing millions of people. get real. but i know you know this already.

First off, I wasn't joking or half-joking...I do believe that Hitler and BY are interchangeable in JAs post about why he reveres Brigham....

So, you don't agree that both Hitler and BY could be considered "unparallelled leaders"...did i say BY committed genocide? I didn't...While he certainly had very strong racist tendencies, i never suggested that he committed genocide...Maybe you need to go back and read the thread before jumping and saying silly things in defense of your buddy (? - not sure why else you would feel the need to nanny the board in his defense)...

Its funny to me that you say "there's no real comparison between the two" and then in next sentance say "no more than you can make between Hitler and any strong-willed leader"...DUH! That is exactly what I said!!!...

[_floatingboy]

keep up the good work, screech! quality stuff.

p.s. i don't know j.a. at all. i just don't like disingenuousness.

[_floatingboy]

PS. Floatingboy, I don't know your musical tastes, but it stands to reason that you might like a little Floating Action: 50 Lashes; Don't Stop Loving Me Now. I found them via Dr. Dog.

thanks! i can def see the similarities with dr. dog.